Things i dislike about the Kona

Just adjust the rubber bumpers to make it close easier. Many owners have had to do this because it seems to have been missed in production.
 
E-Shark said:
Any reason you prefer depressing the accelerator and not just holding the RES+ button up for a few seconds to increase it 10km? You can also depress the accelerator past the speed you previously set then press SET- to automatically set it to your new speed, instead of having to deactivate it, speed up, and reactivate it.

I'm pretty sure the shaking has to do with the fact that the accelerator should only be used for temporary acceleration, not prolonged!!
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This is during temp acceleration, and of course would toggle up the ACC if I wanted to change speeds for a longer period of time. Let me give you the exact scenario. Let's say you are in the left lane slowly overtaking someone in the right lane. But as you are beside him, he speeds up a bit, and you are beside him longer than you want. So as not to hold up anyone behind you that might want to go faster than both of you, you speed up a bit to get past him and change lanes in front so the guy behind behind you can go on his way. Happens fairly often actually if you use cruise control.

Like I said, guys, try it, and you will see what I am talking about. Again, not a big deal for me, and knowing what it does now, I just shut off ACC temporarily and resume when ready. But it shouldn't do that, IMO. My other car, or any car I have driven before even with regular cruise control, doesn't do that.
 
R P said:
Like I said, guys, try it, and you will see what I am talking about. Again, not a big deal for me, and knowing what it does now, I just shut off ACC temporarily and resume when ready. But it shouldn't do that, IMO. My other car, or any car I have driven before even with regular cruise control, doesn't do that.
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Ok that is very weird. I just tried it and the car does go crazy.

It's even weirder when in sports mode, you see the power gauge needle jumping all over the place and the car starts to regenerate then accel again...

Not normal behavior. I'll try again on way home.
 
R P said:
Another dislike is when I accelerate past the ACC speed for a while, and it starts to buck back and forth. Seems like it doesn't want you to hold a speed above the ACC setting. In those situations I just deactivate it for a bit, and when ready, just hit resume. But again, my other car doesn't do this.
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Agreed, software should be adjusted to deactivate the ACC when accelerating above setting. Has anyone mentioned this to Hyundai corp? (not the dealer)
 
I tried it again and here is what i found:

Behaviour is not repeatable for me in eco mode but it is in normal and sport mode.

It's not caused by the radar, i tried with no cars in front of me for a long distance and same thing happens.

Basically in sport mode it was impossible to hold a steady speed above the ACC setting. The car was either constantly accelerating, slowly, in which case it would not act weird, but if i slowly lifted my foot to the point where the speed should be held constant, the car would start to oscillate between acceleration and regen.

This is clearly some bug in their logic. The speed controller should take the max between the accelerator and the ACC output...

The Honda clarity doesn't behave this way, as soon as my foot is on the accelerator ACC is turned off until i stop pressing the pedal then it comes back on.
 
victor_2019 said:
Ok that is very weird. I just tried it and the car does go crazy.

It's even weirder when in sports mode, you see the power gauge needle jumping all over the place and the car starts to regenerate then accel again...

Not normal behavior. I'll try again on way home.
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I'm not able to replicate in any mode. I wonder if it's something that was fixed in the map update.
 
I have the base canadian kona, the preferred model. I don't have the GPS.

Is there an update for all models?
What is the newest firmware version for the base model?
 
SkookumPete said:
I'm not able to replicate in any mode. I wonder if it's something that was fixed in the map update.
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I apologize, I tried again today specifically looking for the phenomenon when holding speed above cruise. I can confirm that there is a sort of pulsing in all drive modes but it's especially noticeable in sport because of the jumping needle.

This seems a basic software bug, and I'm astonished that it was not caught in testing.
 
SkookumPete said:
I apologize, I tried again today specifically looking for the phenomenon when holding speed above cruise. I can confirm that there is a sort of pulsing in all drive modes but it's especially noticeable in sport because of the jumping needle.

This seems a basic software bug, and I'm astonished that it was not caught in testing.
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After thinking about this for a while, I now believe it's a feature not a bug.

You are most likely to accelerate from cruise speed when overtaking. It wouldn't make any sense for the system to cancel CC, because you want to return to the set speed when you have open road ahead. But if you decide to continue at a constant higher rate using the pedal, it's worth being reminded that CC is active and wants to reduce your speed. So you get a pulsing that reflects the contrary orders the car is getting.
 
SkookumPete said:
After thinking about this for a while, I now believe it's a feature not a bug.

You are most likely to accelerate from cruise speed when overtaking. It wouldn't make any sense for the system to cancel CC, because you want to return to the set speed when you have open road ahead. But if you decide to continue at a constant higher rate using the pedal, it's worth being reminded that CC is active and wants to reduce your speed. So you get a pulsing that reflects the contrary orders the car is getting.
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I think you're right in thinking the car is getting contrary orders. But that is the problem. It should prioritize the orders and only one should prevail, preferably the throttle, and not trying to hold the CC speed. That's how my other car works. I can accelerate above the CC speed and hold it there with the throttle. If I let off the pedal, then it slows down to the CC speed. That's how the Kona should work.
 
R P said:
I think you're right in thinking the car is getting contrary orders. But that is the problem. It should prioritize the orders and only one should prevail, preferably the throttle, and not trying to hold the CC speed. That's how my other car works. I can accelerate above the CC speed and hold it there with the throttle. If I let off the pedal, then it slows down to the CC speed. That's how the Kona should work.
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My experience with other cars has been the same, of course.

Whether bug or feature, the gentle pulsing does communicate that it's time to make up your mind about whether or not you're cruising. :cool:
 
KonaTom said:
Yes. The LKA needs work. I hope they improve it with a software update before too long. It needs to look 50-100 feet further ahead to anticipate curves and to consider dashes like solid lines.
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Don't you just love this time of year when the sun is lower and shines directly into the camera on a curve ?
I try to prepare for it , but sometimes it catches me off guard. :oops:
Good thing though it still warns you if you cross that line. (if it can see it)
 
electriceddy said:
Don't you just love this time of year when the sun is lower and shines directly into the camera on a curve ?
I try to prepare for it , but sometimes it catches me off guard. :oops:
Good thing though it still warns you if you cross that line. (if it can see it)
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We have sure been enjoying prime EV weather on the Island with little need for AC, and the two-way sunroof is wonderful. The visors have withstood only one heavy shower, with no leakage. It’s so dry here that the water restrictions have gone to 11-- drink your own urine. ;)
 
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SkookumPete said:
We have sure been enjoying prime EV weather on the Island with little need for AC, and the two-way sunroof is wonderful. The visors have withstood only one heavy shower, with no leakage. It’s so dry here that the water restrictions have gone to 11-- drink your own urine. ;)
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Don't worry, enjoy the fact we are getting enough moisture to avert forest fires (and breath clean air) is awesome. A change from years past.
 
R P said:
LKA is not perfect in this car, but it does work for the most part. My biggest issue actually is that it doesn't work below 60 kph, not sure why. My other car works at lower speeds, and yes, it is also better at picking up lines and road edges.
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It likely only works above 60km/h because the system is only good enough to handle roads that are straight, or straight-ish.. Meaning the system isn't good enough to handle any road that's very twisty, especially around tight mountain turns, which generally have speeds at less than 60km/h.
 
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