Honda Clarity, the Volt Challenger

Discussion in 'Clarity' started by bwilson4web, Dec 6, 2017.

  1. loomis2

    loomis2 Well-Known Member

    I get the same thing. Is the video private?
     
  2. Tiralc

    Tiralc Active Member

    Here is what I see, same video unavailable (probably some kind of "permissions" like Loomis2 says). Almost forgot, Congrats on the solar panels coming online!

    How is the dealer doing with diagnostics? Any news?

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  3. jdonalds

    jdonalds Well-Known Member

    Interesting. It is set to public on youtube. I don't know what else I can do to make it visible to you. I republished it a moment ago though.

     
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  4. jdonalds

    jdonalds Well-Known Member

    I just viewed the video from my wife's phone directly on youtube and she is able to see it. I wonder how to fix this.
     
  5. loomis2

    loomis2 Well-Known Member

    It just started working. Weird.
     
  6. Ken7

    Ken7 Active Member

    Yup, working here now too. Congrats.
     
  7. Domenick

    Domenick Administrator Staff Member

    I see it now, no problem. Weird.
     
  8. dstrauss

    dstrauss Well-Known Member

    Are Volt's really as expensive as they seem? I priced out the top of the line model (to get most, but not everything, my Touring has) and it came out to $40925 before destination charges. That's almost $4000 more than my Clarity, and quite frankly the interior materials, space, and ride comfort are not up to the Honda standards. Maybe it's just because they are out here in fossil fuel land where the demand is low, but that just seems like a big premium for a lesser vehicle.
     
  9. Tiralc

    Tiralc Active Member

    That's MSRP, with some effort and patience, -$6k in discounts / negotiation can often be had with GM. Also, at the end of the model years, there have been occasional 20% discounted Volt prices.

    I agree, the Clarity feels like more car for the money. I have a growing list of Volt features that I miss, but I still like the Clarity a lot.
     
  10. loomis2

    loomis2 Well-Known Member

    Chevy will have to seriously consider dropping the price of the Volt or the clarity will eat their lunch. I also live in fossil fuel land and I think dealers are discounting their volts to move them. Unfortunately, the clarity is too new for it to be discounted at all yet, but it was still worth it to me.
     
  11. Rib

    Rib New Member

    Not sure where to jump in as this is my first post to a forum. Thanks to all for the breakdown on features of the Clarity in particular to jdonalds for thorough coverage.

    A week ago my wife and I bought the Clarity touring PHEV to replace her 2004 Accord (230k mi). Currently on 800 mile trip and are very pleased so far. Our other car is an e-golf which we’re extremely happy with and with the solar panels we added to our house we hope to drop petroleum use to a minimum.

    Question: does anyone find the turbo particularly noisy? I am wondering if ours has an issue. Even after foot comes off pedal the noise is still there. I know very little about turbos.

    Separate note before I forget, I too am fine with the rear wheel covers however I foresee a potential seasonal problem. I’m not sure cables (chains) will safely fit between wheel and body.
     
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  12. jdonalds

    jdonalds Well-Known Member

    How much does HondaLink cost?
    The HondaLink app offers five tiers of features with different pricing for each level. Not all tier levels are available for each model and/or trim level.

    Basic – FREE
    • Access to a digital owner’s manual
    • Recall notifications
    • Find and book service appointments with Honda service centers
    • Parking reminder – save your parking location and get directions back to your vehicle
    • Roadside Assistance
    [​IMG]Link – FREE
    • Access to your vehicles dashboard to check mileage, fuel level, oil life on your phone
    • Receive notifications about warning lights and maintenance reminders
    • Save favorite locations to your app to quickly send to your navigation system
    Security – 12 months complimentary $89/year after that
    • Automatic Collision Notification with a live agent contact
    • Emergency call via a live agent in the event of an emergency
    • Personal data wipe that restores factory audio and navigation settings
    • Enhanced roadside assistance
    Remote – 3 months complimentary $110/year after that
    • Remote start
    • Remote lock and unlock
    • Security alarm alert
    • Geofence alert
    • Stolen vehicle locator
    Concierge – 3 months complimentary $260/year after that
    • Receive a live assistant to call for help with making reservations, finding nearby events and more.
    *The tier levels, features, and pricing shown above should be used as a guide to understand HondaLink only. Tier features and pricing may vary by model and trim level. For exact feature availability and pricing please speak with a local Honda dealer representative or look up your desired model and year at hondalink.honda.com/#/compatibility.
     
  13. Tiralc

    Tiralc Active Member

    Could this be for the new systems like on the 2018 Accord? They have an OnStar like panel. When I look at my Honda Link on the iPhone, there is no remote unlock. I called Cust Service, but they are closed early (3pm PST) for the holidays. There is no OnStar like "Call button" in our Clarity as far as I know (?) (unless it's buried in our soft menu pages), not sure we got the hardware for the option Remote-3 above? I think we got the old 2017 electronics packages, way back from the old hydrogen fuel cell days ;) (bummer).

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    Accord Concierge for a car with a Honda LINK button (?)

    find my car, with remote unlock, horn operation


    I think I was paying about twice that for Volt Onstar, for the equivalent of "Remote - 3". (but, I don't think 2018 Clarity got any of this?) We got find my car, but not remote horn, lights, unlock, etc?
     
    Last edited: Dec 28, 2017
  14. pdxman1

    pdxman1 New Member

    My wife and I are considering both the Volt and the Clarity. At the top trim level that we are comparing, the actual advertised dealer prices of both are almost the same. We still see some advantages for the Volt:
    Proven and reliable technology
    better space for large items
    Best electric range, larger gas tank, better total range
    better handling
    rear cross traffic alert
    blind spot warning on both sides

    The first two are the most important for us. We never have passengers in the rear, but often have cargo. For us, it is hard to decide between the two at current pricing. If the Clarity was a hatchback, it would win hands down for us. We would still be a bit worried about the unproven Honda technology, but we would take the chance. For anyone who needs to carry passengers in the rear, I would think the Honda would be a clear winner, but I don't think Chevy lowering the price a few thousand would change that
     
  15. Tiralc

    Tiralc Active Member

    yep, I hope I'm wrong, but I think this is as good as it gets for 2018 Clarity (very 2017 ;)):

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  16. Tiralc

    Tiralc Active Member

    I think it comes down to not having an built-in integrated cell phone (like OnStar does). I think Clarity only has WiFi and Bluetooth.

    Found an odd set up item while going through the menu trees: Do you want to use your Bluetooth connected phone to automatically call for help if the car detects an accident? yes / no

    (Agree with Ken below abt. remote start, but are there any "lock out situations" where remote unlock might be good? Also, the find the car remotely such as in a theft situation, (needs comms like a built in cell phone) lowers insurance costs, at least at USAA).
     
    Last edited: Dec 29, 2017
  17. Ken7

    Ken7 Active Member

    It seems to me that the issue revolving around 'remote start', is actually a non-issue. With an electric car, the option of remote start is pretty much meaningless so long as you have the ability to turn on the climate control.

    Both the Clarity and my Tesla have exactly that ability. So I'd agree with Tiralc, the missing feature is the OnStar/Conceirge-like feature. To be honest, I've had that feature before on a Fusion Hybrid & Lexus and never once used it.
     
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  18. Tiralc

    Tiralc Active Member

    The more I get used to the controls, I'm thinking the unrestricted steering wheel buttons / controls (no plastic covering) are nicer for operation. Also, I finally trained myself to use the volume control on the steering wheel. Now, I am less concerned about not having a volume knob at the center display. I found it very distracting to try to find that virtual slider control on the center display while driving, but the volume up/down control on the steering wheel is pretty easy to find and operate quickly.
     
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  19. Ken7

    Ken7 Active Member

    I never used the volume slider on the center display. It's too hard to get a precise volume while driving. So I always use the steering wheel control.
     
  20. jdonalds

    jdonalds Well-Known Member

    Honda states that chains are not to be used with the clarity. They offered a different solution but I forget what it was. I think it is in the owner's manual.
     

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