BC Hydro charging rates are increasing in Sept On July 28, we filed an application with the B.C. Utilities Commission (BCUC) to increase our current rates for public electric vehicle charging service. The new proposed rates are slightly higher than the current interim rates to help recover the costs of building and operating charging stations, and to better align with market rates. If approved, the cost* to charge at our public charging stations effective September 1, 2023 will be: 3 cents per minute for Level 2 charging (currently free) 13 cents per minute for 25 kW charging (currently 12.19 cents) 25 cents per minute for 50 kW charging (currently 21.33 cents) 33 cents per minute for 100 kW charging (currently 27.43 cents) *plus GST
I appreciate BC Hydro's charging network, but this is too much. Using the example of the Flo Level 2 charging station in my condo building, it's charging $1/hour and is making money on this. $1.80/hour is way too much. They should be charging by kWh now rather than $/minute. This is BS: "The new proposed rates are slightly higher than the current interim rates to help recover the costs of building and operating charging stations, and to better align with market rates." It's typical PR talk to cover for increasing prices. Considering that BC Hydro is the prime source of the electricity, there's a lot of gravy in those price increases.
Boo,... Suck you in and then suck you dry... Wonder if this applies to the non networked BC Hydro stations, like the Hope Slide one. No cell service there. And I wonder how long the Chevron On the Run stations will be free?
The entire notice posted below. Sounds like charging by the kWh is in the works: "The application also sets the stage for future updates, including energy-based pricing and idle fees." On July 28, we filed an application with the B.C. Utilities Commission (BCUC) to increase our current rates for public electric vehicle charging service. The new proposed rates are slightly higher than the current interim rates to help recover the costs of building and operating charging stations, and to better align with market rates. If approved, the cost* to charge at our public charging stations effective September 1, 2023 will be: 3 cents per minute for Level 2 charging (currently free) 13 cents per minute for 25 kW charging (currently 12.19 cents) 25 cents per minute for 50 kW charging (currently 21.33 cents) 33 cents per minute for 100 kW charging (currently 27.43 cents) *plus GST The application also sets the stage for future updates, including energy-based pricing and idle fees. Before proposing these rates and our 10-year deployment plan, we carefully considered feedback from customers and interested parties through public consultation. Want more info on rates or need help charging? Our fast charging help centre guides you through charging, paying, and other common questions. If you require additional assistance, you can call our customer service team 24 hours a day at 1 866 338 3369.
When are we going to get time of day cheaper rates at home, or breaks for EV owners? Why should be at their tier 2 top rate at home, just because we own an EV?
3"]When are we going to get time of day cheaper rates at home, or breaks for EV owners? Why should be at their tier 2 top rate at home, just because we own an EV?[/QUOTE] It could be years yet. BC Hydro has delayed public hearings on its 2021 long term plan by deciding that its two-year-old demand forecast was too low. They're now in a multi-step process to revise the plan, with the first step being a new demand forecast by Aug. 11 and public hearings on that forecast in late September https://www.ordersdecisions.bcuc.com/bcuc/orders/en/521798/1/document.do. Time-of-day electricity rates were an option to spread the demand from charging EVs in the 2021 report, but Hydro's new load balancing response has been punted further down the road with nothing officially scheduled.
Somewhat similar to the presently ongoing Canadian class action auto parts conspiracy of which I filed 2 claims for Nissan Leafs I purchased during the time period. "The class actions affect any person in Canada who purchased or leased a new vehicle containing the relevant parts or who purchased the relevant parts for installation in a new vehicle (ie. automakers). The following is a list of the actions started: Air Conditioning Systems, Air Flow Meters, Alternators, Anti-Vibration Rubber Parts, Autolights, Automatic Transmission Fluid Warmers and Oil Coolers, Automotive Brake Hoses, Automotive Exhaust Systems, Automotive Steel Tubes, Bearings, Braking Systems, Body Sealing Parts, Ceramic Substrates, Constant Velocity Joint Boot, Electric Powered Steering Assemblies, Electronic Control Units (ECU), Electronic Throttle Bodies, Fan Motors, Fuel Injection Systems, Fuel Senders, Heater Control Panels (HCP), High Intensity Discharge Ballasts (HID Ballasts), Hoses, Ignition Coils, Instrument Panel Clusters (IPC), Inverters, Manual Steering Columns, Motor Generators, Occupant Safety Systems (OSS), Oxygen Sensors, Plastic Interior Trim, Power Window Motors, Power Window Switches, Radiators, Shock Absorbers, Spark Plugs, Starters, Steering Angle Sensors, Switches, Windshield Washer Systems, Windshield Wiper Systems, Wire Harness Systems." Auto Parts Class Actions | Price-fixing | Siskinds Law Firm FWIW patiently waiting for my $50
Perhaps of interest: https://docs.bcuc.com/documents/other/2022/doc_69392_g-391-22-extension-request.pdf
Here's a CBC report today on it https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/bc-hydro-ev-charging-1.6935028 Of note is https://www.bcuc.com/OurWork/ViewProceeding?applicationid=1139 where it lists the letters received so far. There really needs to be a lot more comments on this to make an impact.https://www.bcuc.com/Forms/LetterOfComment I don't understand the people interviewed understanding "the need" for a rate increase. The proposed costs for both timed and power usage are ridiculous.
Yes, very disappointing. BC was an early leader promoting EVs. Now it seems they are back tracking, and just trying to be another charger. EVs are expensive enough and we need all the help we can to make EV travel more affordable and attractive if we expect people to convert from ICE cars.
Just got the e-mail update: Hi Edward, Our proposed public EV charging rates will not be changing September 1 as a result of our application and our current charging rates will remain in place. This is following a decision today by the B.C. Utilities Commission (BCUC) that the interim changes we applied for as part of our public EV charging rate application were not approved. Instead, the BCUC has initiated an expedited review process for our application. Our public charging rate application is in response to previous decisions by the BCUC and incorporates feedback we've heard from our customers. It proposes: Moving to energy-based rates and adding an extended stay fee Expanding our network to over 3,000 charging units over 10 years Increasing the power level of our stations over time Introducing more level 2 charging
64 people have sent Letters of Comment: https://www.bcuc.com/OurWork/ViewProceeding?applicationid=1139 . Need to keep this going.
Press release from BC Hydro - 180 kW dual chargers Now that's more like it, not sure if they will have CCS, NACS and CHAdeMO connectors, or a combination thereof. They are also shared, so a limit of 90 kW if both are used. They appear to be well marked, so as to avoid confusion if pulling out the handle if another EV is latched onto the other one. "The first communities expected to receive these units include Tumbler Ridge, Manning Park, Mackenzie and Surrey. BC Hydro aims to start installing these units in late fall 2023 and many of its new locations planned in 2024 will also receive these higher-powered charging units." Picture thanks to Burnabynow
Yes, but having experienced their 100kW chargers which, in my experience, supply 60 to 70kW, I wonder what the actual output will be from the 180kW chargers. Manning Park is certainly deserving of an upgrade.
For sure Manning Park. There can be a line up there sometimes for the single 50KW. One that also needs replacing, although I am not sure if there is room, are the BCH 25 KW machines by the park in Hope.
B.C. Hydro is starting a Peak rewards program, this applies to T-Stats and Load controllers as well, but I edited those out to keep focus on EVs. I am sure over time this will include more brands, but for now...just these 3: Home › Energy savings › Residential › Rebates & free programs › Peak Rewards Peak Rewards Enroll your products How it works Throughout the year, we'll hold periodic 'peak time events'. During these events, we'll remotely adjust your enrolled smart home device(s). This may include delaying the start of charging your electric vehicle (EV) Each event will last no more than four consecutive hours. You can opt out of the event at any time, and you'll always maintain full override control of your enrolled devices. After an event ends, your device will return to its normal operation. You'll receive a $50 annual reward Networked EV chargers ChargePoint Level 2 networked EV chargers JuiceBox Level 2 networked EV chargers SWTCH networked EV chargers* *Only an eligible product for multi-unit residential buildings that participate in this program. Contact your strata or SWTCH Energy for more information. If you're enrolling an EV charger, you must: Own a plug-in electric vehicle. Have an eligible EV charger that's always connected to the internet, or be a SWTCH user living in a participating building. SWTCH users don't need to own their residence.