Xcel Energy 2.7 cents kWh charging program for evs
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You'll be future-proofed with a 50-Amp EVSE. 2.8 cents is a great rate!
Puppethead
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(The Xcel Energy rates differ by state, my rates are for Minnesota)
When I installed my home charging in 2020 Xcel Energy had limited choices. I'm on the "EV Meter" Xcel Energy plan which is a separate EV charging meter: $0.04/kWh off-peak 21:00-09:00 weekdays, all-day weekends and $0.16/kWh on-peak. I get to use any EVSE I want, which is going to be good when I install the 80 Amp Ford Charge Station Pro for the Intelligent Backup Power. What I like about the Ford F-150 Lightning is it knows about all of the plans so I could select my Xcel Energy's plan and the F-150 Lightning automatically charges correctly when at home. My MINI Cooper SE has to be manually switched by me between off-peak weekdays and charge immediately on weekends or when I'm at a public charger. There have been a couple times when I plugged my SE into a public charger and thought I was charging only to realize it was set for a low-cost window of 9pm-9am!
When I installed my home charging in 2020 Xcel Energy had limited choices. I'm on the "EV Meter" Xcel Energy plan which is a separate EV charging meter: $0.04/kWh off-peak 21:00-09:00 weekdays, all-day weekends and $0.16/kWh on-peak. I get to use any EVSE I want, which is going to be good when I install the 80 Amp Ford Charge Station Pro for the Intelligent Backup Power. What I like about the Ford F-150 Lightning is it knows about all of the plans so I could select my Xcel Energy's plan and the F-150 Lightning automatically charges correctly when at home. My MINI Cooper SE has to be manually switched by me between off-peak weekdays and charge immediately on weekends or when I'm at a public charger. There have been a couple times when I plugged my SE into a public charger and thought I was charging only to realize it was set for a low-cost window of 9pm-9am!
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Fastnf
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I have an Enphase system with a whole house backup and a 20 kwh battery that I put in before I got the Lightning. I can program to charge solar only or on off peak hours. The Enphase system also down loads all of the utility rates and times. But I am retired so I am always around and I just plug in my Old GE Durostation dumb charger when I have excess solar. Pus I have net metering so if I need to I can charge from the grid and the export the solar. It works so I haven't bothered with a smart charger. A the lot of the people on F150 Lightning forum have had trouble getting the Home integration Systems (HIS) from Ford operating properly. The HIS system seems to have software communication problems with the truck that are slowly being worked through. I think I will wait till V2H is a little more mature before I go down that path. For now if I need to I can plug an extension cord into the truck in an emergency if the grid and the Enphase system are down.
OneEV
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Instead of buying the charger from xcel I am doing the $17 a month rental and hoping Xcel will offer the bi directional chargers within 2 years ... The ID 4 is getting that capability
All current VW models will get the Software Version 3.5 (or higher), giving them the function. VW with the 77 kWh battery includes the ID.4 Pro, ID.4 Pro S, ID.4 Pro AWD, and ID.4 Pro S AWD.
Volkswagen says the discharge speed will be an impressive 10 kW. In comparison, Ford’s F-150 Lightning provides up to 9.6 kW of power through its Intelligent Backup Power capabilities.
All current VW models will get the Software Version 3.5 (or higher), giving them the function. VW with the 77 kWh battery includes the ID.4 Pro, ID.4 Pro S, ID.4 Pro AWD, and ID.4 Pro S AWD.
Volkswagen says the discharge speed will be an impressive 10 kW. In comparison, Ford’s F-150 Lightning provides up to 9.6 kW of power through its Intelligent Backup Power capabilities.
OneEV
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Did you read xcel wants to go to switch to time of Use (tou) for all electric service , rates would double during peak of day ! a big hit to retired folks
Figured I'd better grab the EV TOU (nigh charging) before they change these rates as well..lock in rates for a couple years anyways.
ericy
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Part of me wants to say that those rates are pretty attractive, but I assume that's just the cost to generate and not the transmission cost. But the peak rates are pretty eye watering. For us, we have two heat pumps, so it almost becomes a deal-breaker.
For us, we are on a plan with a fixed rate 24x7 that is around 12c/kWh (that includes all fees/taxes). There does exist an EV charging plan, but to get that you have to accept much higher rates on-peak. The solar on the roof takes a big dent out of that, but in the winter, the usage is still pretty significant.
For us, we are on a plan with a fixed rate 24x7 that is around 12c/kWh (that includes all fees/taxes). There does exist an EV charging plan, but to get that you have to accept much higher rates on-peak. The solar on the roof takes a big dent out of that, but in the winter, the usage is still pretty significant.
OneEV
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Morning ericy yeah keep in mind I drive Uber 200 miles per day so for me 2.8cents vs 14cents is a big deal .
I'm all electric with a heat pump, also retired, so sitting around with the lights & TV on all day (not really). I looked at my consumption using data from my iotawatt system & concluded that I'd come out ahead with a time of use plan. This was before I had an EV, probably even more beneficial now. For me, xcel in CO, peak is 3pm - 7pm, mid peak is 1pm-3pm, the rest is off peak. Our rates are roughly 0.08/0.10/0.12 in the winter and 0.08/0.12/0.16 (going by memory). I do have a grid tied solar so much of my solar production is at peak rates. Most of our heating is in the off peak hours too. Most of the peak consumption is cooking. I think that MN rate plan would be even better for me.
OneEV
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Colorado has such great rebates/credits on EVs probably more than makes up for a slightly higher charging rate