Will not go over 20mph

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Using cruise in a 20 mph/30 km/h school or park zone is stupid; LIM lets you drive the car easily without exceeding the set speed. It’s not rocket surgery. Different controls for different situations.
 
SameGuy said:
Using cruise in a 20 mph/30 km/h school or park zone is stupid
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I don't think the cruise control activates below 30 or 35 mph, which I've wondered about in the SE. I understand the speeds being too low to maintain RPMs for ICE, but the electric motor should be able to handle slow speeds.
 
Cruise control will not activate below 30 kph (I believe 20 mph on non-metric).
If the car is stopped, hitting the LIM button will automatically set at 30 kph.
If you are driving at a higher speed when the LIM button is pressed, the top speed is set to the current speed. As others have mentioned, if you floor the loud(??) pedal, you will be allowed to accelerate beyond the LIM speed.
This can be useful for avoidance of some emergency.


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Puppethead said:
I understand the speeds being too low to maintain RPMs for ICE, but the electric motor should be able to handle slow speeds.
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Right, but using cruise in school (and other low-speed) zones isn’t safe, allowing the driver to “zone out” while rolling along at a speed that can still kill a child, or a cyclist or pedestrian. Using the limiter still leaves the driver in full control of the go pedal (loud pedal hehe), and paying attention to the surroundings. I’m not saying a driver must use it, I’m just arguing that it’s not a stupid feature, as some posters seem to think.
 
SameGuy said:
Right, but using cruise in school (and other low-speed) zones isn’t safe, allowing the driver to “zone out” while rolling along at a speed that can still kill a child, or a cyclist or pedestrian.
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Eh, that's true of driving in general. What about things like Tesla's autopilot, is there a minimum speed there too?
 
Cruise control is a MIN speed (>20mph) setting and limit is a MAX speed setting.

Limit also comes in handy when Active Cruise Control fails on the freeway/highway.
 
Puppethead said:
Another 2022 technology I don't have to feel sad about not having in my 2021 SE. Here's what I don't get, though: if the SE knows the speed limit (I'm assuming all MINIs do now), why can't cruise control have a mode to go that speed?
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Carsten Haase said:
I'd also really like that feature (maybe with a selectable offset like I think Tesla does) but every so often the MINI gets the speed limit wrong so they probably don't want the liability.

Mine has missed a school zone a number of times and would have had me going 45 in a 20! Not sure about other places but in Oregon we also have "end speed zone" signs that basically mean 55 and the MINI doesn't understand those (unless the speed limit is retrieved from the database)
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Hah, just a coincidence that a link was posted in the UK F56 forum this morning to this unbiased article explaining the EU’s “Intelligent Speed Assistance” system, which became mandatory on all cars sold in the EU from the beginning of this month.
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/features/intelligent-speed-assistance-everything-you-need-know
 
So now I’m wondering if there’s an Expert or ISTA-P setting to activate the full feature (I’d use it too).
 
Puppethead said:
I asked the service foreman/SE expert at my dealer and he said it is indeed reading the speed limit signs. I believe him because the limit changes exactly as I pass the sign, and I hate school zones because our limits are "20 mph when children are present" and the SE doesn't get the "when children are present" part. There may be database entries (and defaults) involved, but I've noticed when a speed limit changes and the sign is obscured by something like trees the SE will miss the change.
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Just to add another data point for our cameras reading the speed limit. My neighborhood speed (25 mph) does not seem to be 'available' on the Mini GPS map data. If I turn into one entrance that does not have a speed limit sign, my car continues to display the 40 mph speed from the road I turned off. If I drive around and 'see' one of the posted speed signs, it then changes to 25 mph.

So I printed a 50 mph speed limit sign on a piece of paper and taped it to the wall of my garage to the front right of my parking spot. I started my Mini yesterday and pulled out of the garage, looked down, and the speed display changed to 50 mph. I may print a 70 mph and see if I can get the same result. Seems legit.
 
That doesn't describe my experience. I'm driving in the country, on a road with a posted limit of 35 (and there are no speed limit signs after I turn onto that road) and my dash says 35. I turn again onto another road that is very short and has no signs at all, and my dash says 25. I turn at the end of the road, and the dash says 35, even though the next sign is just over the hill.

Another situation: I'm on a road marked 40 and my dash says 40. I turn, and the dash says 35, but the next sign I see says 50, and when I get to the 50 sign, the dash says 50.
 
GvilleGuy said:
If I turn into one entrance that does not have a speed limit sign, my car continues to display the 40 mph speed from the road I turned off. If I drive around and 'see' one of the posted speed signs, it then changes to 25 mph.
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Exactly the same performance here (but the metric equivalents).
 
I must admit that my favourite feature is the speed limiter. Over in Oz, the blue pixies regularly try to bolster their coffers with speeding fines from hidden cameras. I find that using the limiter by habbit has meant I don't have to worry about them. You still have full control up to the speed limit you set, and you can override if necessary with full application of the go pedal. As far as the camera goes, it works really well over here. Sometimes, too well. We have signs indicating exit speed for a freeway. It sees them too, and for a short distance displays the exit speed. That is why I would never automatically set my speed according to the camera. I think the GPS also comes to the party - if it knows the speed limit, it will show it. I have had speeds change without signs here. It isn't as accurate - the instant you pass a speed sign, the camera detects it and the limit changes. I have the original '20 model without ACC, but the limiter and speed recognition systems work a treat. No tickets since getting the SE :)
 
I use the limiter whenever I’m in residential zones during normal, non-vampire hours (ie I don’t bother when I leave for work before 5 am). It works exactly the way I expect it to work, and exactly the way I want it to work.
 
I observed something cool and unexpected today.

I drove the back highways from Montreal to just south of the New York border. A couple of times, the indicated speed limits on stretches changed as I passed town limits, and as soon as the sign came into view, the car issued a “BONG!” to let me know.

But one of these BONGs happened just as I pulled away from the CBP crossing, as the car recognized a sign changing the 30 mph limit to 55… only the car displayed the speed signs in rounded metric (50 km/h changing to 90 km/h)! Neither Apple Maps nor Google Maps do this, both choosing instead to display known speed limits in the local form of measurement.
 
SameGuy said:
I observed something cool and unexpected today.

I drove the back highways from Montreal to just south of the New York border. A couple of times, the indicated speed limits on stretches changed as I passed town limits, and as soon as the sign came into view, the car issued a “BONG!” to let me know.

But one of these BONGs happened just as I pulled away from the CBP crossing, as the car recognized a sign changing the 30 mph limit to 55… only the car displayed the speed signs in rounded metric (50 km/h changing to 90 km/h)!
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I wonder if that's a Canadian thing? Mine doesn't make any noise when the speed limit changes and I don't remember seeing an option for it

SameGuy said:
Neither Apple Maps nor Google Maps do this, both choosing instead to display known speed limits in the local form of measurement.
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It's an option on Google maps (should affect speed too but haven't tested it):
Screenshot_20220812-162506_Maps.webp
 
Oh thanks! I’ve never seen that setting!

ETA: mine’s set to Automatic. You mean if I set to miles or kilometres it would calculate and round off?
 
Carsten Haase said:
I wonder if that's a Canadian thing? Mine doesn't make any noise when the speed limit changes and I don't remember seeing an option for it
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Sorry to keep tagging but I just realized I had ACC engaged during every instance where it bonged to denote a speed limit change.
 
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