It seems the only logical answer for when fossil fuel investment should become illegal is "a long time ago." Surely in 2008 or at the latest 2016. The problem with fossil fuel rent seeking is that more fundamental then even the destabilizing climate instability element is the economic and political dynamics of fossil fuels down to the property models (which are inherently insane.) This is the core of the problem because if not stopped it will almost guarantee a global war and a war that is nuclear where everyone will perish even people who try to hide in bunkers or under ground cities.
Completely contrary to the Shell CEO's recent claim that fossil investment is totally legitimate because of supposed 'demand' and climate supposedly being the state's problem (e.g. sequestration) instead fossil fuel investment logically needs about the highest form of condemnation civilized society can achieve. Which presumably includes first making it fully illegal and a felony and then making the penalty include: no statute of limitations, and a mandatory minimum of total asset confiscation right down into the Cayman islands and Swiss accounts and total permanent irrevocable forfeiture and life in solitary confinement without the possibility of parole or pardon. And in some cases it seems for consistency there should be the ability to go ex-postfacto and article 99 to include some historical offenders who were knowingly grossly undermining society for private gain and interfering with a societies response- the EU is a good bet for this because they have these abilities and in Germany the legal system is even considering prosecuting politicians that don't adhere to environmental laws- and there will presumably be no qualms about sitting in office or not (and of course the US is getting clear also that there never really were such qualms as we don't privilege crime- on the contrary we prosecute it.) Well just my opinion the legal community will hopefully figure it out and sort through lies about bridge fuels and other such tripe. And hopefully they go after every politician that has taken fossil fuel money.
One measure of how corrupt the US has become is how its media has for decades now talked more about the Middle East than the US. The vast majority of Americans don't have an overriding reason to focus on or be interested in the Mid East but that is the majority of what the US media has been focused on for the last 30 years. Part of it reflects intentional diversion from US problems but another part reflects capture of the media by self-appointed elite fossil fuel rent seekers. Imagine if the US media had been focused on Vietnam or South East Asia to the exclusion of what matters to people for the last 30 years.
Why has a real response to the problem been so delayed?
There appears to have been deliberate interference because the problem itself is deliberate. The economics of fossil fuels are scarcity inducing which is a quality certain elites wanted in order to extend control- so for selfish power reasons they would equate control with stability and security- the kind that trade liberty for security and famously deserving neither. This goes back to Nixon and the Powell memo but strains of it predate Nixon. Right after the advent of nuclear power there were laws put in place that allowed the suppression of technology if it threatened economic disruption or disruption of the prevailing economic order meaning even back then "fossil fuel rent seeking." But there are are 3 tightly interrelated money based conflicts of interest and one eventuality that have an even bigger impact. The conflicts of interest must be changed in law and we must adapt to the the eventuality. The choice to go down the route of fossil fuel rent seeking plantation slavery was the response of the Powell memo GOP-ers to the eventuality- if not for that Texas energy sector type choice we could have been free of this pollution and oppression 50 years ago.
1. SPONSORSHIP The loss of the free speech and fairness doctrines (those doctrines were actually intended to filter the influence of money by keeping it out of elections) and the imposition of a fully sponsored or money captured model of media. These anti money in politics doctrine's didn't go far enough hence their failure and the current situation- they should have outright banned sponsored forms of media as sponsored media is incompatible with democracy as history has shown and it completely corrupts politics. Sponsorship can't even be layered in among donation and subscription because it amounts to bribe money on content and its influence overrides all else. And we'd never ever want tax deductible or credited sponsorship- it is really the dirtiest word in the language, is is worse than patronage. It immediately led to things like delinking wages from inflation which is a recipe for a civil war but also debt peonage.
A sponsored media amounts to knowingly misleading the public about the public interest for profit. It results in a consolidated media that acts as a megaphone for money power which censors and drowns out and spins (straight lies and suppresses accurate information,) it also dumbs down the public and helps destroy education. It also results in a captured media and the resultant capture of the legislature or law as money or law as crime- highest bidder law or arbitrary law for hire or a simple arbitrary might makes right rule for society. It means that representatives not only take money from donors but they take money from sponsors which amounts to taking bribes from sponsors for promising to sell out the public iteratively and compromising the public and the public interest. Then these sponsor captured (blackmailed and bribed) representatives turn around and give the money right back to the sponsor captured media that filters them in effect giving the sponsors their money back in a closed loop. So in essence candidates are pre-filtered by the sponsors because they won't get air time on sponsor captured media if the sponsors don't like what they say or don't have their speech under control- and yet the public owns the airwaves not these self-appointed censors. And this money filter works with the other elements of elitism like the captured parties (captured in part because of a captured media) and the non proportionate senate and the back room selectees in the electoral college and gerrymandering
Carter was the last non fossil fuel shill we had for President, Obama was still a shill but a little less so.
What this constant sponsorship cycle and money grubbing results in (representatives spend all their time selling out trying to grub cash to recycle into the closed loop) is that we get puppets owned by interests both foreign and domestic. Look at the 153 or so convictions of high level GOP politicians and look what the convictions were for- even those who come in with their own money are thoroughly compromised by the monied interests. And totally corrupt as the DNC is, trying to rig for fossil fuel shill Biden like it did for Hillary, it has something like 3 convictions since Nixon. All this subjugates the public instead of providing representation and it destabilizes and destroys faith in the system. Media must be restructured so it serves the public and does not serve monied interests, but really as a permanent hedge it needs to work against monied interests because that is the public's natural interest and part of a needed check on the abuse of the power inherent in money. Remember also that the legal system begins to fail on this corruption of media and the culture becomes warped because this dishonest system affects the selection of judges and precedents in law. continued in next post
Completely contrary to the Shell CEO's recent claim that fossil investment is totally legitimate because of supposed 'demand' and climate supposedly being the state's problem (e.g. sequestration) instead fossil fuel investment logically needs about the highest form of condemnation civilized society can achieve. Which presumably includes first making it fully illegal and a felony and then making the penalty include: no statute of limitations, and a mandatory minimum of total asset confiscation right down into the Cayman islands and Swiss accounts and total permanent irrevocable forfeiture and life in solitary confinement without the possibility of parole or pardon. And in some cases it seems for consistency there should be the ability to go ex-postfacto and article 99 to include some historical offenders who were knowingly grossly undermining society for private gain and interfering with a societies response- the EU is a good bet for this because they have these abilities and in Germany the legal system is even considering prosecuting politicians that don't adhere to environmental laws- and there will presumably be no qualms about sitting in office or not (and of course the US is getting clear also that there never really were such qualms as we don't privilege crime- on the contrary we prosecute it.) Well just my opinion the legal community will hopefully figure it out and sort through lies about bridge fuels and other such tripe. And hopefully they go after every politician that has taken fossil fuel money.
One measure of how corrupt the US has become is how its media has for decades now talked more about the Middle East than the US. The vast majority of Americans don't have an overriding reason to focus on or be interested in the Mid East but that is the majority of what the US media has been focused on for the last 30 years. Part of it reflects intentional diversion from US problems but another part reflects capture of the media by self-appointed elite fossil fuel rent seekers. Imagine if the US media had been focused on Vietnam or South East Asia to the exclusion of what matters to people for the last 30 years.
Why has a real response to the problem been so delayed?
There appears to have been deliberate interference because the problem itself is deliberate. The economics of fossil fuels are scarcity inducing which is a quality certain elites wanted in order to extend control- so for selfish power reasons they would equate control with stability and security- the kind that trade liberty for security and famously deserving neither. This goes back to Nixon and the Powell memo but strains of it predate Nixon. Right after the advent of nuclear power there were laws put in place that allowed the suppression of technology if it threatened economic disruption or disruption of the prevailing economic order meaning even back then "fossil fuel rent seeking." But there are are 3 tightly interrelated money based conflicts of interest and one eventuality that have an even bigger impact. The conflicts of interest must be changed in law and we must adapt to the the eventuality. The choice to go down the route of fossil fuel rent seeking plantation slavery was the response of the Powell memo GOP-ers to the eventuality- if not for that Texas energy sector type choice we could have been free of this pollution and oppression 50 years ago.
1. SPONSORSHIP The loss of the free speech and fairness doctrines (those doctrines were actually intended to filter the influence of money by keeping it out of elections) and the imposition of a fully sponsored or money captured model of media. These anti money in politics doctrine's didn't go far enough hence their failure and the current situation- they should have outright banned sponsored forms of media as sponsored media is incompatible with democracy as history has shown and it completely corrupts politics. Sponsorship can't even be layered in among donation and subscription because it amounts to bribe money on content and its influence overrides all else. And we'd never ever want tax deductible or credited sponsorship- it is really the dirtiest word in the language, is is worse than patronage. It immediately led to things like delinking wages from inflation which is a recipe for a civil war but also debt peonage.
A sponsored media amounts to knowingly misleading the public about the public interest for profit. It results in a consolidated media that acts as a megaphone for money power which censors and drowns out and spins (straight lies and suppresses accurate information,) it also dumbs down the public and helps destroy education. It also results in a captured media and the resultant capture of the legislature or law as money or law as crime- highest bidder law or arbitrary law for hire or a simple arbitrary might makes right rule for society. It means that representatives not only take money from donors but they take money from sponsors which amounts to taking bribes from sponsors for promising to sell out the public iteratively and compromising the public and the public interest. Then these sponsor captured (blackmailed and bribed) representatives turn around and give the money right back to the sponsor captured media that filters them in effect giving the sponsors their money back in a closed loop. So in essence candidates are pre-filtered by the sponsors because they won't get air time on sponsor captured media if the sponsors don't like what they say or don't have their speech under control- and yet the public owns the airwaves not these self-appointed censors. And this money filter works with the other elements of elitism like the captured parties (captured in part because of a captured media) and the non proportionate senate and the back room selectees in the electoral college and gerrymandering
Carter was the last non fossil fuel shill we had for President, Obama was still a shill but a little less so.
What this constant sponsorship cycle and money grubbing results in (representatives spend all their time selling out trying to grub cash to recycle into the closed loop) is that we get puppets owned by interests both foreign and domestic. Look at the 153 or so convictions of high level GOP politicians and look what the convictions were for- even those who come in with their own money are thoroughly compromised by the monied interests. And totally corrupt as the DNC is, trying to rig for fossil fuel shill Biden like it did for Hillary, it has something like 3 convictions since Nixon. All this subjugates the public instead of providing representation and it destabilizes and destroys faith in the system. Media must be restructured so it serves the public and does not serve monied interests, but really as a permanent hedge it needs to work against monied interests because that is the public's natural interest and part of a needed check on the abuse of the power inherent in money. Remember also that the legal system begins to fail on this corruption of media and the culture becomes warped because this dishonest system affects the selection of judges and precedents in law. continued in next post
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