what is the best state of charge for longevity of battery pack

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charles mugler

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I have heard charging battery level to 100% each timein time will have negative impacts on the long term life of battery vs say 80%, could not find anything in manual, any input would be appreciated
 
The Kona has a battery buffer at the top end, meaning even if you charge to an indicated 100% its really more like 96-98%. So you won't do harm to it.
 
apu said:
The Kona has a battery buffer at the top end, meaning even if you charge to an indicated 100% its really more like 96-98%. So you won't do harm to it.
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Just wanted to add that I think I have read on another thread there is also another buffer at the bottom end, also to protect the battery though I would not advise anyone to put that theory to the test, just in case.. ;)
 
charles mugler said:
I have heard charging battery level to 100% each timein time will have negative impacts on the long term life of battery vs say 80%, could not find anything in manual, any input would be appreciated
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Based on Battery University, you get the longest life on Lithium Ion batteries if you keep the charge between 65 and 75%. I'm between 60 and 80% most days.
 
BlueKonaEV said:
Based on Battery University, you get the longest life on Lithium Ion batteries if you keep the charge between 65 and 75%. I'm between 60 and 80% most days.
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Correct, don't charge it to 100% if you don't need to, and if you do, don't let it sit at 100% for extended time. Charge it to 100% and then go if you need the range. Same on the bottom end, plug it in immediately if you had to run it down low.

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Esprit1st said:
Correct, don't charge it to 100% if you don't need to, and if you do, don't let it sit at 100% for extended time. Charge it to 100% and then go if you need the range. Same on the bottom end, plug it in immediately if you had to run it down low.
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While this advice is salient for Teslas and is generally good EV advice its important to note the Kona's software limits you from meeting true 100% discharge or recharge levels. The car's displayed state of charge only represents its virtual capacity vs real battery capacity.
 
apu said:
While this advice is salient for Teslas and is generally good EV advice its important to note the Kona's software limits you from meeting true 100% discharge or recharge levels. The car's displayed state of charge only represents its virtual capacity vs real battery capacity.
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I have heard this often, but do we have any confirmation of this, reference or link? It is odd though, that in the manual Hyundai recommends charging to 100% before storing the car for a while. That seems very contrary to popular wisdom.
 
Based on their chart, after 8500 charging cycles, you'd still be above 90% of the original capacity if you keep the charge between 65 and 75%.. 9000 cycles is over 2 Million miles if one cycle gives you 270 miles range..

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R P said:
I have heard this often, but do we have any confirmation of this, reference or link? It is odd though, that in the manual Hyundai recommends charging to 100% before storing the car for a while. That seems very contrary to popular wisdom.
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One indication of top end buffer is the presence of regeneration capacity when you are "charged to 100%" in the Kona. In Teslas regen is disabled when charged to 100% as there is no upper buffer. Also if you had access to app like torque pro you would probably note that even at a full 100% SOC the battery voltage would never approach 4.2 volts( full charge). Ultimately do what Hyundai suggest you should do.
 
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apu said:
While this advice is salient for Teslas and is generally good EV advice its important to note the Kona's software limits you from meeting true 100% discharge or recharge levels. The car's displayed state of charge only represents its virtual capacity vs real battery capacity.
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Yes, that is true but does it matter? Not really, even with the buffer I would never charge it to 100% if I don't need it for my trip. Just being cautious.

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apu said:
One indication of top end buffer is the presence of regeneration capacity when you are "charged to 100%" in the Kona. In Teslas regen is disabled when charged to 100% as there is no upper buffer. Also if you had access to app like torque pro you would probably note that even at a full 100% SOC the battery voltage would never approach 4.2 volts( full charge). Ultimately do what Hyundai suggest you should do.
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That would be an interesting test. Measure voltage with Torque pro and SOC.

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apu said:
One indication of top end buffer is the presence of regeneration capacity when you are "charged to 100%" in the Kona. In Teslas regen is disabled when charged to 100% as there is no upper buffer. Also if you had access to app like torque pro you would probably note that even at a full 100% SOC the battery voltage would never approach 4.2 volts( full charge). Ultimately do what Hyundai suggest you should do.
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That's interesting -- I usually charge to 90%, but a few times when I charged to 100% and left my house, I got a message on the dash saying that regen was disabled or reduced due to the battery charge (or something like that). Now, my driveway is downhill about 300', so the first thing I do when I leave the garage is hit the brakes, so it's regen right away.

So either the Kona is preventing the regen from using that buffer in my case, or the buffer is much smaller than we think?
 
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