Tire Question

[Busdriver]

My Hankooks are on the skinny side, and now that I moved to the great white north I am planning on all season replacements.
IIRC in North America, there is no way to determine the rolling resistance for particular tires only sold here. Have
I missed a source for information? I figured everyone here would have the answers.
Thanks

 

[insightman]

My Hankooks are on the skinny side, and now that I moved to the great white north I am planning on all season replacements.
IIRC in North America, there is no way to determine the rolling resistance for particular tires only sold here. Have
I missed a source for information? I figured everyone here would have the answers.
Thanks

Here's a thread on "All Season Tires," and a much, much longer thread, "Tires (Summer/Winter/All-Season)." I don't believe anyone has yet found a US source for rolling resistance numbers.

 

[Busdriver]

Here's a thread on "All Season Tires," and a much, much longer thread, "Tires (Summer/Winter/All-Season)." I don't believe anyone has yet found a US source for rolling resistance numbers.

Thanks Insightman,
I had found those threads, and have spent way too much time reading, comparing and obsessing.
I was hoping there had been a source for resistance ratings which maybe I had missed. Probably
going to roll the dice and try one, and hope my efficiency doesn't take a big hit.

 

[Rexsio]

Thanks Insightman,
I had found those threads, and have spent way too much time reading, comparing and obsessing.
I was hoping there had been a source for resistance ratings which maybe I had missed. Probably
going to roll the dice and try one, and hope my efficiency doesn't take a big hit.

I use them on 2 cars and I love them SE only winter Subaru all year on SE I didn’t notice range hit as I use them from November to April and in those months we driving slower Hankooks on SE summer . I have those Nokians on 16” with 10 mm spacers as they not avilable in195/55/16 . All season tires are different than ALL WEATHER tires as not many people knows that fact.Nokian WRG-5 Remedy all weather tires made in USA Read about them on Nokian .com All season tires are not design for snow or temperatures below 45’ F.

 

[ColdCase]

As a data point, the Pirelli Cinturato P7 All Season EV tire provides a bit more range, maybe 5-8%, than the OEM Hankooks summer/performance.

 

[CuriousGeorge]

As a data point, the Pirelli Cinturato P7 All Season provides a bit more range, maybe 5-10%, than the OEM Hankooks summer/performance.

That's interesting! I wonder how the former compare to their summer-only version.

 

[brianc35]

This is the only info i can find

Found good rolling resistance, noise, wet grip tests to...

Its that time when the questions about winter tires appear. This year I found some good tests of rolling resistance (RR) between many winter tire choices. To compare the effect of the kg/t RR numbers below, there are multiple tests I have linked in other threads showing that the popular Michelin...

www.vwidtalk.com

https://priuschat.com/threads/low-rolling-resistance-tires.207361/

Sounds like we need to start a database for this....

 

[goaheadbackup]

I’ve resorted to asking AI for rolling resistance ratings. I suppose some of the information is helpful for comparison purposes. My biggest frustration is finding good all-weather tires in 195/55R16. I’ve run Pirelli P7 Plus II tires (all-season) for 5 winters (in southern New England) but they are cracking and need replacement. Pirelli no longer makes the non-run flat P7s in 16s. Newer EV tires seem unavailable for 16s. I may opt for an older tire design, the Vredestein Quatrac. I’m not keen on spacers and longer bolts. I don’t drive the SE that much in the snow but a tire that performs well in wet conditions will be helpful. Any thoughts on the Quatracs?

 

[Puppethead]

I drive on 16" Nokian Hakkapeliitta R5 snow tires, but their 17" all-season Surpass AS01 tire is worth looking at. It's "EV suitable".

Nokian Tyres Surpass AS01

 

[Rexsio]

I drive on 16" Nokian Hakkapeliitta R5 snow tires, but their 17" all-season Surpass AS01 tire is worth looking at. It's "EV suitable".

Nokian Tyres Surpass AS01

As I’m set with tires shoping for next 5 years before they expire in 10 years 2022 SE 32000 miles driving summers with factory Hankooks 16” wheels I have 8 of them why bc I need second set of rims for winter and I was lucky enough to get them on Craigslist in NJ for $400 with 3000 miles on it full set . In 2023 .Nokian on 16” rims for winter as I don’t experience big snows in NY those All weather WRG-5 Remedy are the best tires you can own in light winters conditions . Now let see if some people claim good milage on different tires better than summer performance Hankooks as my car was dealiver a day I pic up Rexsio from dealer . Than show a picture as I do with real driving on a dashboard highway 50% and city as I do for 4 years not theoreticall estimate a range as this is only and always on SPORT mode .with range as factory estimate 114 miles I’m more than happy how my Rexio is performing

 

[insightman]

I’m more than happy how my Rexio is performing

Wait. I thought YOU were Rexio. Rexio is your MINI?

 

[Rexsio]

Wait. I thought YOU were Rexio. Rexio is your MINI?

I mentioned in 2022 my car name is Rexsio as I named after my dog miniature pincher he was with me for 15 1/2 years at the same year when he dyed I ,made a plate which is in my car since to his memory and I’m also painting I draw his memory drawing REKSIO and REXSIO two different spellings in English / Polish .For 45 years proud American

 

[goaheadbackup]

So, is anyone running 205/55R16 without spacers? 205s are more plentiful than 195s. I’m still using my original Hankook summer tires May-October on the 16-inch OEM Victory Spoke wheels. I bought (cheap!) a second set of 16-inch wheels (Loop Spoke) for winter use. Will we all eventually be forced to either buy off-brand 16-inch compatible tires or move up to 17-inch wheels?

 

[Rexsio]

So, is anyone running 205/55R16 without spacers? 205s are more plentiful than 195s. I’m still using my original Hankook summer tires May-October on the 16-inch OEM Victory Spoke wheels. I bought (cheap!) a second set of 16-inch wheels (Loop Spoke) for winter use. Will we all eventually be forced to either buy off-brand 16-inch compatible tires or move up to 17-inch wheels?

205/55/16 Nokian WRG-5 Remedy 10 mm concentric spacers for 2 years I love it for me without spacers was to close to struts for comfort longer bolts need it

 

[insightman]

I’ve resorted to asking AI for rolling resistance ratings. I suppose some of the information is helpful for comparison purposes. My biggest frustration is finding good all-weather tires in 195/55R16. I’ve run Pirelli P7 Plus II tires (all-season) for 5 winters (in southern New England) but they are cracking and need replacement. Pirelli no longer makes the non-run flat P7s in 16s. Newer EV tires seem unavailable for 16s. I may opt for an older tire design, the Vredestein Quatrac. I’m not keen on spacers and longer bolts. I don’t drive the SE that much in the snow but a tire that performs well in wet conditions will be helpful. Any thoughts on the Quatracs?

I found a few brand-name all-season tires online. Walmart is selling Hankook Kinergy PT All-Season tires in our size (I have two sets of Loop Spokes for winter and non-winter). With a name like Kinergy, they MUST have low rolling resistance.

Discount Tire sells Yokohama Avid Ascend GT All-Season tires, but that name doesn't scream low rolling resistance like Kinergy does.
Discount Tire also sells Toyo and Pirelli P7 all-season tires in our size. These Discount Tire links are for my Ann Arbor store, so I don't know if they apply or will even work everywhere. FYI, Discount Tire originated in Ann Arbor in 1960, but they're not based here anymore.

 

[Busdriver]

I’ve resorted to asking AI for rolling resistance ratings. I suppose some of the information is helpful for comparison purposes. My biggest frustration is finding good all-weather tires in 195/55R16. I’ve run Pirelli P7 Plus II tires (all-season) for 5 winters (in southern New England) but they are cracking and need replacement. Pirelli no longer makes the non-run flat P7s in 16s. Newer EV tires seem unavailable for 16s. I may opt for an older tire design, the Vredestein Quatrac. I’m not keen on spacers and longer bolts. I don’t drive the SE that much in the snow but a tire that performs well in wet conditions will be helpful. Any thoughts on the Quatracs?

We have the Quatrac Pro, which has been replaced by the Quatrac Pro+
on our other Mini, R56. I can’t say how well it does in snow, as I really didn’t get a chance to really drive in much. I will say that I drove through a lot of standing water, as it easily flooded where we lived in NC. They were rock solid. I’m not a super aggressive driver, but I do push them and they handle everything well