The Truth about Electric Cars and why you are being lied to

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Journalists need to make a living and OpEds are just one of the revenue streams available. Johnny lives in Los Angeles, CA which has a statewide energy mix of approximately:
0.1% coal
7.7% nuclear
7.9% hydro
50.0% natural gas
29.2% solar
5.1% wind
 
I happen to be a Motor Trend subscriber. They've been generally very positive about EVs, and take some flack over it from old-school readers high on gasoline fumes. My only qualm about their coverage (not reflected in the article we're discussing) is that in evaluating new EVs they obsess a bit too much over maximum fast-charging speed, in my opinion.
 
Bruce M. said:
I happen to be a Motor Trend subscriber. They've been generally very positive about EVs, and take some flack over it from old-school readers high on gasoline fumes. My only qualm about their coverage (not reflected in the article we're discussing) is that in evaluating new EVs they obsess a bit too much over maximum fast-charging speed, in my opinion.
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Any of Motor Trend's old-school readers who deign to tackle an article about an EV begin by scanning to discover how long that EV takes to charge.
 
The point he is making is the LCE (Lifecycle CO2 Emissions) should be considered, not just small aspects. Sometime back, the fact that plants give out CO2 was a big talking point, but not the next effect (the delta between conversion and emission). This story needs to be told more and I am glad that Motor trend is willing to stick its neck out and go against everything they have encourage for decades

R P said:
So many diff stats and opinions out there, hard to know for sure what is true.
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For now we can ignore the actual numbers. The major point he is making is the Lifecycle CO2 Emissions should be considered, not cherry pick small aspects. Sometime back, the fact that plants give out CO2 was a big talking point, but not the next effect (that plants converted more CO2 than they emitted). Most opponents ignore the lifecycle aspect.

R P said:
But it is interesting that MotorTrend would publish such an article.
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This story needs to be told more and I am glad that Motor trend is willing to stick its neck out and go against everything they have encourage for decades
 
interestedinEV said:
For now we can ignore the actual numbers. The major point he is making is the Lifecycle CO2 Emissions should be considered, not cherry pick small aspects. Sometime back, the fact that plants give out CO2 was a big talking point, but not the next effect (that plants converted more CO2 than they emitted). Most opponents ignore the lifecycle aspect.
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So you mean burning the Amazon rainforest is technically a carbon neutral event? That would also imply that humans were net zero pre-industrial revolution with the carbon neutrality of biomass.
 
teslarati97 said:
So you mean burning the Amazon rainforest is technically a carbon neutral event? That would also imply that humans were net zero pre-industrial revolution with the carbon neutrality of biomass.
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Not sure I understand the question. Let me clarify. First, comparing EVs with ICE's seems to come down to the CO2 emissions for making the battery and the car. Yes there is an impact there and there is an impact on the environment in generation of electricity. However, you need look at the life times emissions of both types of vehicles.

Second, a few years back, I would hear Fox news commemorators and other EV opponents quoting studies that plants emitted C02, so preserving the amazon rain forests for example would not help the climate crisis. What they omitted was that plants absorbed CO2 in more quantities then they emitted, so it was positive for the environment. They were cherry picking the points to justify EV's do not make sense. Burning of rain forest is not carbon neutral, it reduces the number of trees.

I am not trying to suggest any thing else
 
My Tesla cost about $0.025 per mile. Our gas guzzling Prius was about three times higher. I did not buy our EVs for CO[2] but my wallet.

Bob Wilson
 
bwilson4web said:
My Tesla cost about $0.025 per mile.
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I am completely satisfied paying $0.025 (Cdn) per km in the "winter" conditions here of course that cost is reduced pretty much in half during optimum summer months.
Judging by the substantial increase in EVs encountered on the road in B.C. the last few years, many more owners share the same "happy wallets" as well.:)
 
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