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It used to be that 18-097 (charging issues) did not come up on the list of applicable SBs when you went in by VIN, but if you looked at the SB it said it was applicable to all VINs. So applicable but not required.

One would hope that newly manufactured vehicles would have the updates applied. If it were me, I would ask the dealer to use the i-HDS and tell me which updates had been applied to my specific vehicle. Your dealer is telling you that these updates are not applicable to you, but I find that difficult to believe.

The current list is posted in several threads here; I think it is
18-089: EVTC & 3-way Valve software update for DTC's P100C, P0010, and P26A3 (this replaces 18-079)
18-090: 6VT00, EVTC Failure Misdirection PUD
18-091: Driver Display Software Update (Mileage) (this replaces 18-069)
18-096: 6CW00, Emissions Warranty CD Product Update
18-097, charging problems (sensitivity to power fluctuations at public chargers)
The sales person just sent me a PDF with details for my VIN.

He is a pain to deal with. I think I will worry about this after I take delivery and then deal directly with the service department!
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The sales person just sent me a PDF with details for my VIN.

He is a pain to deal with. I think I will worry about this after I take delivery and then deal directly with the service department!
Which will be a pain to deal with.

I would feel a lot better about this if it used terminology like "No items apply for this vehicle" rather than "no information is available for this vehicle." I know I am being picky, but there is a difference.

And I would not expect 18-097 to appear here. It seems to be in a category all its own in terms of appearing on lists.

My personal advice would be to go with the flow and not push it at this point. I don't have any of the SBs installed, and I have not decided whether to request that they install them when I take the car in for maintenance. Frankly, since I am not having any problems, I believe that the probability of an untrained technician breaking something trying to install a software update is greater than the issue that is being fixed suddenly coming to life and causing me a problem. If it ain't broke . . .

On the other hand, if you have problems with charging, then you have motivation and justification to request 18-097. I haven't, and I haven't.
 
Which will be a pain to deal with.

I would feel a lot better about this if it used terminology like "No items apply for this vehicle" rather than "no information is available for this vehicle." I know I am being picky, but there is a difference.

And I would not expect 18-097 to appear here. It seems to be in a category all its own in terms of appearing on lists.

My personal advice would be to go with the flow and not push it at this point. I don't have any of the SBs installed, and I have not decided whether to request that they install them when I take the car in for maintenance. Frankly, since I am not having any problems, I believe that the probability of an untrained technician breaking something trying to install a software update is greater than the issue that is being fixed suddenly coming to life and causing me a problem. If it ain't broke . . .

On the other hand, if you have problems with charging, then you have motivation and justification to request 18-097. I haven't, and I haven't.
Agreed. I will do the same. See if I have an issue, and then get the patch applied if needed.

Now that I know the patches available, I think I can co-relate the problem to the solution. And only get the necessary fixes.
 
My dealer is telling me that there are no active campaign or recalls for my car. He gave me a VIN inquiry report showing that there are no active recalls. Is there a chance that since it is a new car, although 2018 model, it came from the factory with the latest updates?


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Remember, safety recalls are made by a manufacturer under the regulations of the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) and are listed by VIN via either the Honda web site or by the NHTSA at https://www.nhtsa.gov/recalls. I am guessing that your dealer sent you a clean bill of health for safety recalls, not for non-safety, non-government mandated OEM issues (like Honda Service Bulletins), which can also be listed by VIN (or simply by "all" VINs of a particular year/model. The safety recalls and the Honda SB's are two different animals, so make sure your dealer is offering you the SB list from i-HDS (a Honda internal network) and not the US safety recalls that you can check online yourself at the NHTSA web link above.
 
Is there a chance that since it is a new car, although 2018 model, it came from the factory with the latest updates?
Depending on the manufacturing date which you can see in the driver door jamb. My 2018 was built in November so I am guessing it probably has the SB's from October. But that depends on when and where they would be updated. If you have been to a car assembly plant you can see that the cars are put together pretty quickly as they roll down the assembly line. So the updates would have had to have already been applied to the ECU or whatever at the sub-assembly manufacturer's location. If the car rolls off the line without updates then in theory the updates could later be applied at the port but I don't think they do it there. So then the last chance is if the dealer proactively updates it but I don't think that's part of their process unless you ask them or they just have a high level of customer service and check for you anyway.
 
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