Recall 200

[R P]

I think you have a far more likelihood of being in a car accident than your Kona catching fire. Can't worry about every remote possibility, or life would be no fun. It's been a while since we have heard of another one catching fire.

Probably should worry more about having one of these cars.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory...a are,and Kia Sorento SUVs from 2014 and 2015.

Or even this one.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/new...er-chance-of-fire/ar-BB1eJxxd?ocid=uxbndlbing

Lots of cars have had fire problems. Still remember many years ago when Audi's were catching fire going up long steep hills in hot weather. There were a lot of car fires with these.

 

[FloridaSun]

I hope that the replacement battery will be as good as the one I have right now.. I just charged to 90% after mostly city driving for the last few hundred miles.. 305 mile range @ 90%.. This car is amazing, especially around town.. Hopefully, the new battery will degrade as little as my current one...

 

[Ronny]

I hope that the replacement battery will be as good as the one I have right now.. I just charged to 90% after mostly city driving for the last few hundred miles.. 305 mile range @ 90%.. This car is amazing, especially around town.. Hopefully, the new battery will degrade as little as my current one...

Hopefully it will be "new" & not refurbished.

 

[Wildeyed]

Hopefully it will be "new" & not refurbished.

I'm pretty sure there aren't 80K+ batteries around to refurbish.

 

[Ronny]

I'm pretty sure there aren't 80K+ batteries around to refurbish.

They will be replacing 82,000 batteries over what will probably be a long period of time. How do we know that those replaced batteries are not going to be refurbished after they are replaced and then used as replacement batteries?

 

[Wildeyed]

Repurposed or recycled would be more likely than simply refurbished and replaced in cars. There's an identified and inherent and unfixable flaw in these batteries sufficient to warrant a $1B+ recall. That flaw isn't going away. Would they risk going through this all again every couple years? Even if you're prone to believe in corporate shenanigans one that big and blatant seems far fetched.

 

[lars2885]

They will be replacing 82,000 batteries over what will probably be a long period of time. How do we know that those replaced batteries are not going to be refurbished after they are replaced and then used as replacement batteries?

"MARKHAM, ON, March 11, 2021 /CNW/ - Today Hyundai Canada announced an agreement with Quebec-based Lithion Recycling on the recovery and recycling of high-voltage batteries from some of its Hybrid, Plug-in Hybrid and Electric vehicles, with the ultimate goal of increasing the sustainability of its electric vehicle production cycle." https://www.newswire.ca/news-releas...and-electric-vehicle-batteries-830446067.html

 

[Toolworker]

Hopefully it will be "new" & not refurbished.

Dealer repair kit:

 

[Toolworker]

Although it says "Remedy not yet available," the NHTSB recall says "As an interim step ... [o]wners will also be provided with instructions to manually lower the battery’s state of charge limit via the infotainment system."

Do we know what state of charge limit Hyundai recommends?

I asked Hyundai Customer Care for the safe SOC limit.

Today they replied: "Currently there is no remedy available and we recommend parking this vehicle outdoors and away from structures until we can perform the repair." This continues Hyundai Customer (don't) Care's perfect record: I have requested information from them at least half a dozen times and they still have not given one useful response.

I filed a complaint online with the NHTSB to make them aware that Hyundai is not making this simple information available.

 

[lars2885]

FCA (Stellantis) today recalled 20,000 Ram trucks equipped with the 6.7 L diesel engine. The company says the 2021 pickup and chassis cab trucks have heater electrical relays that can short, overheat and in rare cases cause fires. Fires can start even if the engines are turned off. They're telling owners to park them outdoors due to the fire risk.

As others have said above, Kona EV owners are not alone. Fires are more common in ICE vehicles for a variety of reasons. Cars from both major German luxury brands have caught fire while turned off and parked. One owned by a friend caused extensive damage to his house when it caught fire in his garage while he and his wife were away on vacation. It was not on a charger at the time. Our situation is not without precedent, and it's not like a Kona burns up every day somewhere in the world. It helps keep me calm to put the overall situation in perspective.

 

[Denis193]

Hi everyone! Well in Russia problem much bigger because Kona doesn’t sells officially. And now I don’t now how I can replace battery. Any suggestions?


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[apu]

Hi everyone! Well in Russia problem much bigger because Kona doesn’t sells officially. And now I don’t now how I can replace battery. Any suggestions?


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If it was originally sold in the EU market you probably could get it taken care of at the closest European country that has a Hyundai dealer that sells EVs. If it was imported from the US or elsewhere that is a much bigger problem. If that is the case you might want to communicate with your Russian government transportation counterpart that deals with manufacturers' recalls and ask what your options might be. They might be able to compel Hyundai cooperate to deal with the problem.

 

[syntaxfx]

I asked Hyundai Customer Care for the safe SOC limit.

Today they replied: "Currently there is no remedy available and we recommend parking this vehicle outdoors and away from structures until we can perform the repair." This continues Hyundai Customer (don't) Care's perfect record: I have requested information from them at least half a dozen times and they still have not given one useful response.

I filed a complaint online with the NHTSB to make them aware that Hyundai is not making this simple information available.

I wouldn't commit either. If just one car lit up at their recommended limit, the class action lawsuit would be astronomical.
Hyundai Oz haven't issued any formal recall notice yet.

 

[Toolworker]

I wouldn't commit either. If just one car lit up at their recommended limit, the class action lawsuit would be astronomical.

Yes, but they told the NHTSB they would recommend a limit.

And they just did - it's 80%.

I received an email with the link www.HyundaiUSA.com/Campaign200. After validating my VIN, it said to set the charge level to 80%.

I can get a $200 gift card to compensate for the inconvenience reduction in range but will have to go to the dealer so they can verify the setting. Has anyone verified whether it's a real gift card or just good for Hyundai products?

The drive to my dealer will take an hour and a half, round trip, plus waiting time. I wonder if they will give me another gift card for that inconvenience.

The full text is below.

YOUR VEHICLE IS AFFECTED.

Your vehicle is affected by the Lithium-ion Battery recall. The remedy is not yet available. We are currently making preparations to implement the Recall.

Customers will be mailed notification letters when the remedy is available. In the meantime, owners are recommended to perform the following:

• Adjust or confirm your vehicle’s ‘Max. % Charge’ level to 80%. This can be done manually at home using the infotainment system with these steps:
  • Turn the vehicle ignition ON without starting the engine.
  • Depending on radio select: EV on display screen (7 in) or battery display (10.25 in)
  • Select Energy Information.
  • Select DC Charger.
  • Press the Minus (-) Sign until the charger percentage reaches 80%.
  • Select OK when complete.
  • Perform the same steps once more for the AC Charger.
  • Both the DC and AC charge percentage will now be set and displayed at 80%.
  • See instructional video www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk-FrxW5bRM
• If your vehicle is currently subscribed to Bluelink, Hyundai will attempt to remotely set your ‘Max. % Charge’ to 80% within the next week. You can verify the setting following the steps above.
• You must go to the dealership to verify or adjust ‘Max. % Charge’ level reduced to 80%. Once verified at the dealership you will receive a $200 gift card due to the inconvenience of reduction of range. Please provide the dealer with a valid email address and allow 10 business days for processing.
• If you cannot adjust or go to the dealership to achieve ‘Max. % Charge’ level to 80%, park and charge your vehicle outside and/or away from structures until the ‘Max. % Charge’ level has been reduced to 80%.

 

[ehatch]

Yes, but they told the NHTSB they would recommend a limit.

And they just did - it's 80%.

I received an email with the link www.HyundaiUSA.com/Campaign200. After validating my VIN, it said to set the charge level to 80%.

I can get a $200 gift card to compensate for the inconvenience reduction in range but will have to go to the dealer so they can verify the setting. Has anyone verified whether it's a real gift card or just good for Hyundai products?

The drive to my dealer will take an hour and a half, round trip, plus waiting time. I wonder if they will give me another gift card for that inconvenience.

The full text is below.

Hyundai can't do FW/SW updates via OTA, but to adjust your maximum battery charge level ,they can?! Things are getting sketchier with the LG Li-ion as time passes. This may be an EVgate,impacting Bolts also. No one bought the Kona electric for 80% of the EPA rated range,loss is worth more than $200.

 

[Toolworker]

No one bought the Kona electric for 80% of the EPA rated range,loss is worth more than $200.

Presumably when the battery is replaced, the range will go back up. If it's a different, presumably newer, battery, it could have more range than previously. Or could have less.

But it could be quite a while before we find out.

 

[E-Shark]

Yes, but they told the NHTSB they would recommend a limit.

And they just did - it's 80%.

I received an email with the link www.HyundaiUSA.com/Campaign200. After validating my VIN, it said to set the charge level to 80%.

I can get a $200 gift card to compensate for the inconvenience reduction in range but will have to go to the dealer so they can verify the setting. Has anyone verified whether it's a real gift card or just good for Hyundai products?

The drive to my dealer will take an hour and a half, round trip, plus waiting time. I wonder if they will give me another gift card for that inconvenience.

The full text is below.

80%, interesting.

 

[apu]

Yes, but they told the NHTSB they would recommend a limit.

And they just did - it's 80%.

I received an email with the link www.HyundaiUSA.com/Campaign200. After validating my VIN, it said to set the charge level to 80%.

I can get a $200 gift card to compensate for the inconvenience reduction in range but will have to go to the dealer so they can verify the setting. Has anyone verified whether it's a real gift card or just good for Hyundai products?

The drive to my dealer will take an hour and a half, round trip, plus waiting time. I wonder if they will give me another gift card for that inconvenience.

The full text is below.

Yeah, I won't be taking any of Hyundai's wooden nickels. Not that they have offered us Canadians any

 

[FloridaSun]

If someone actually brings in the car to have the settings checked, let us know what kind of gift card it is.. If it's for Hyundai parts and services.. no thank you... If it's a visa gift card... I'll probably go for it..

 

[CharlyM]

Interestingly enough they say my car is "not affected by the recall", even though it got all the other recalls for the battery issue...