teslarati97
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I would be okay if the ZA0 all electric quad motor M3 was 700hp. Apparently BMW engineers tested it up to 1,300hp.
Next generation (J01) MINI Cooper revealed
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CuriousGeorge
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"Undoubtedly, the J01 Cooper Electric has a slightly heavier feel and drive compared to the F56, primarily due to the 160 kilograms (352 lbs) weight difference. Despite this model boasting about 30 more horsepower, it’s challenging to completely conceal the added weight. However, I believe this trade-off is justified, especially since the F56’s 140-mile (225 km) range often fell short for many users. Personally, I’m willing to sacrifice a bit of the driving dynamics for a nearly 80 percent increase in range."
https://www.bmwblog.com/2024/05/13/2024-mini-cooper-se-review/
Trade-offs, trade-offs everywhere!
https://www.bmwblog.com/2024/05/13/2024-mini-cooper-se-review/
Trade-offs, trade-offs everywhere!
teslarati97
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Horatiu leased 4 BMW i3 vehicles over 9 years before moving onto the i4 because of high residual and low resale. I'm sure he's just thrilled his children no longer need car seats. That being said, I'd probably hang onto the F56 BEV as it's my city vehicle and range is a non-issue.
CuriousGeorge
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Good point!
CuriousGeorge
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Ignoring the numbers given, they very well could be describing how the present SE drives ("zippy", "some torque steer", "not the fastest but really fun to drive", etc.).
I also have to say, the simplicity of the styling is really refreshing - it will be interesting to see if MINI is ahead of industry trends here. Also, those body seams are tight!
CuriousGeorge
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Has this one been posted already?
How much was Jasper paid by MINI for this review? Where did he find the definition of a "hot hatch?" The JCW body trim begs for JCW bits underneath, too, so a true "hot hatch" would be available. I know, I know. Hold my breath.
If the J01 had a fake hood scoop would Jasper gush over that the way he gushed over the stupid straps on the steering wheel and dashboard? I've watched many J01 reviews, Jasper's raving over the features I see as negatives made me like the J01 even less than I did before seeing this one.
I wish these reviewers would admit they're prohibited from weighing and testing the performance of the new SE and must treat the numbers MINI provides as gospel.
Puppethead
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I prefer actual customer reviews over these previews, which is true of most things. Real owners will give more realistic assessments.
CuriousGeorge
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I forgot, some people listen to videos with the sound or captions on.
Rexsio
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According to Carvana since apr.5 to May 15 I lost $1800 on a value of my SE 12000 miles on it .
@Rexsio, don't believe that price. Carvana doesn't know about all the improvements you've made to your MINI Cooper SE.
Rexsio
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Those EVs really don’t hold a value an improvement means nothing if you sell to dealers but my checking with Carvana was only for if I want to sell ? But in not my case I keep that car as I’m 73 years young forever as I live as car battery’s are dead after 10-15 years I use a car for dog house or chicken cup in my backyard this is my plan to live and drive SE that long !
Reuters says the EU is threating the J01 with it's maximum import tariff: 38.1%.
The BMW/Great Wall Motor joint venture "was unable to fulfill the European Commission's survey to the level of detail required to be classed as a company cooperating with the investigation... Companies seen as cooperating with the EU were subject to lower tariffs of 17.4%-21%"
Of course, Joe Biden has already said, "Hold my beer. I'll see your 38.1% tariff and raise you 61.9%."
If the joint venture doesn't clear this up, perhaps EU customers (not including the non-EU UK, I assume) will have to wait and hope the J01 eventually built in the UK can clear this paperwork hurdle.
The US Senate is already investigating MINI for importing MINI Cooper SEs containing parts from a banned Chinese supplier.
The BMW/Great Wall Motor joint venture "was unable to fulfill the European Commission's survey to the level of detail required to be classed as a company cooperating with the investigation... Companies seen as cooperating with the EU were subject to lower tariffs of 17.4%-21%"
Of course, Joe Biden has already said, "Hold my beer. I'll see your 38.1% tariff and raise you 61.9%."
If the joint venture doesn't clear this up, perhaps EU customers (not including the non-EU UK, I assume) will have to wait and hope the J01 eventually built in the UK can clear this paperwork hurdle.
The US Senate is already investigating MINI for importing MINI Cooper SEs containing parts from a banned Chinese supplier.
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One report that I saw said that that was on top of the 10% tariff already in place.
Do you have a link? I looked at US, European, and Indian websites and none of them mentioned a tariff greater than 38.1%.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/12/...e_code=1.z00.1k1o.YvNvc0ysfGz4&smid=url-share
"The tariffs, which have been expected for months, come on top of existing 10 percent duties, ..."
I believe the NYT (thanks for sharing the article, BTW). When I subsequently searched for "duties," I found an AP article that also mentions the 10% duties atop the "38.1% for vehicles exported by China’s state-owned SAIC." Neither the NYT nor the AP article mention the BMW/Great Wall Motor 50:50 joint venture called Spotlight Automotive Limited, but I'm sure the duties are the same, with only the tariffs varying, depending on the manufacturer's level of cooperation.
What is the strategy is for a manufacturer to withhold full cooperation with the European Commission's survey? Are the banned parts they use so inexpensive due to slave labor that their cost offsets the increased tariff?
This article https://www.politico.eu/article/chi...ooperative-probe-european-commission-letters/ seems to suggest that they don't have a strategy; that suppliers simply didn't respond to the survey because doing so would have resulted in hefty tariffs.
It'll be interesting to see how MINI responds. With the price of the electric MINI Cooper going up in Europe will MINI divert electric Countryman vehicles originally destined for the US to the EU instead? And instead increase allocation of Cooper and Aceman to non EU/US countries?
News articles say that it was France and Spain that pushed for the EV tariffs; now, Germany is pushing for China to impose tariffs on French/Spanish exports of pork.