TheHellYouSay
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The WA State sales tax relief (~$2500) kicked in on 8/1 so I went for that and the $7,500 fed tax savings. I cannot resist a good deal so I was all in. I also had a very large desire to stick it to Big Oil. The less I give those bloodsuckers, the better. And the concept of lower TCO, no oil changes, timing belts, etc., made it a very attractive car to "buy and hold" which has always been my strategy since I bought my 1986 Subaru new.
I have owned a lot of cars over the past 45 years, probably somewhere between 15 and 30, I'd have to sit down and count. Some good, some bad, but each was unique in it's own way. I had taken a test drive in an old beat up Nissan Leaf, and was ready to buy a Leaf Plus due to lower cost, but stumbled upon Niros and Konas. Even though I live near Seattle where the temps are usually moderate, I felt that active battery management would be advantageous.
At first, I wasn't sure what to think about the regenerative braking. It felt odd. If an ICE does that kind of behavior, you pull it off the road and make sure something isn't about to seize up. Then the quietness is also jarring. When it slows down without braking and you don't hear the engine humming, instinctively, my heart sort of flutters. I also worry that with aggressive regenerative braking that some folks might think I'm coasting and just ride right over my bumper.
On the other side of the coin, the acceleration is breathtaking. I am trying to sort of "break it in" old school for the first 500 miles, but still, the torque is there and I could see how an idiot who abused it could wind up doing donuts down the freeway. Living in an area with bad traffic though, I see some advantages in the power that it can put to the wheels in very short order. And the hell of it is, to slow down and take a slot in the next lane, just let off the gas and it will GENERATE juice. That is just too cool.
I'm on Day 3 and I've got some of the stuff like Android Auto and Bluetooth set up, got a lot of the buttons figured out now. I've been driving in ECO pretty much the whole time, although I did let my son drive it for 3 or 4 miles and he wasn't interested in ECO mode. The car was sold to me with 18 miles on it. The dash said that it was fully charged with 278 miles of range, although I knew very well that it was only rated at 239 miles. After 100 miles (118 on the clock) the car "said" that I had 192 miles left, for a depletion of 86 miles. I was averaging around 4.5 to 4.6 Kw/mi. I am down around 167 today, still maintaining a significant portion of the surplus I was enjoying in the first 100 miles. I should note that I've been very stingy with AC and heater, trying to leave them off as much as possible.
It is a fun car to drive, no doubt about that. I'm very worried about getting a speeding ticket because I like to get where I'm going and without the noise of an engine, and the transmission lurching to shift gears, it's all a meaningless blissful number. I used to know I was going 35 MPH because there were 3 shifts.
I currently own a 2005 Tundra and a 2009 Hylander Limited, so I have become spoiled by heated and powered seats, as well as rear view mirrors that auto adjust to lighting conditions. Not having those features is ok since they just suck juice and have potential for breakage, but I'm just saying that it's too bad that at least one of those three couldn't be included for such a premium price. It feels very solid in terms of driving, but obviously KIA has found ways to recoup some of the weight given over to the batteries, so doors and tailgates don't exactly feel Toyota-tough, but the car is quite a bit smaller than my others.
I'm not sure I'll use Lane Keep Assist and Blind Spot warnings and all of that as a commuter car, but on the open road, sure, that could be handy. I am dying to try the adaptive cruise control, but no road trips yet.
I know these things have probably been addressed a hundred times, but I have some questions.
1. Is there any downside whatsoever to using regenerative braking to it's fullest? I have fooled with the setting a bit and gotten mine into Auto Mode (adapts for hills, etc.) and it starts up at Level 2. I move it to 3 almost immediately because I don't mind the slowing effect and it is supposedly saving me money, but I can't get the idea out of my mind that I'm wearing "something" down? Should I be saving this Eco Aggressive behavior for when I am out on a road trip?
2. Charging? I already know that 80% is recommended for a stopping point on charging, unless you need that extra capacity. I did buy a ClipperCreek charger for fast charging, but they have free outlets at work for getting a trickle charge. I drive about 20 miles a day, so I don't think I'll need to charge that often, but in terms of getting best use out of the batteries, and in the interest of a "break-in" period if such a thing exists for EVs, is there any advantage or disadvantage to trickle charging vs. fast charging? Would a mix be ok? Sucking down free miles from my employer was also on that list of reasons to buy an EV.
3. I am pretty new to the car, and this is related to the Auto Regeneration feature. I just discovered this last night on one of the menus. It was NOT turned on by default, so I'm wondering why? Most of the other defaults looked fine, but having to turn this on made me wonder if there was a cost to it? So far, I like driving the car better with it on.
Thanks in advance, hope to be a member here for a long time!
Steve
I have owned a lot of cars over the past 45 years, probably somewhere between 15 and 30, I'd have to sit down and count. Some good, some bad, but each was unique in it's own way. I had taken a test drive in an old beat up Nissan Leaf, and was ready to buy a Leaf Plus due to lower cost, but stumbled upon Niros and Konas. Even though I live near Seattle where the temps are usually moderate, I felt that active battery management would be advantageous.
At first, I wasn't sure what to think about the regenerative braking. It felt odd. If an ICE does that kind of behavior, you pull it off the road and make sure something isn't about to seize up. Then the quietness is also jarring. When it slows down without braking and you don't hear the engine humming, instinctively, my heart sort of flutters. I also worry that with aggressive regenerative braking that some folks might think I'm coasting and just ride right over my bumper.
On the other side of the coin, the acceleration is breathtaking. I am trying to sort of "break it in" old school for the first 500 miles, but still, the torque is there and I could see how an idiot who abused it could wind up doing donuts down the freeway. Living in an area with bad traffic though, I see some advantages in the power that it can put to the wheels in very short order. And the hell of it is, to slow down and take a slot in the next lane, just let off the gas and it will GENERATE juice. That is just too cool.
I'm on Day 3 and I've got some of the stuff like Android Auto and Bluetooth set up, got a lot of the buttons figured out now. I've been driving in ECO pretty much the whole time, although I did let my son drive it for 3 or 4 miles and he wasn't interested in ECO mode. The car was sold to me with 18 miles on it. The dash said that it was fully charged with 278 miles of range, although I knew very well that it was only rated at 239 miles. After 100 miles (118 on the clock) the car "said" that I had 192 miles left, for a depletion of 86 miles. I was averaging around 4.5 to 4.6 Kw/mi. I am down around 167 today, still maintaining a significant portion of the surplus I was enjoying in the first 100 miles. I should note that I've been very stingy with AC and heater, trying to leave them off as much as possible.
It is a fun car to drive, no doubt about that. I'm very worried about getting a speeding ticket because I like to get where I'm going and without the noise of an engine, and the transmission lurching to shift gears, it's all a meaningless blissful number. I used to know I was going 35 MPH because there were 3 shifts.
I currently own a 2005 Tundra and a 2009 Hylander Limited, so I have become spoiled by heated and powered seats, as well as rear view mirrors that auto adjust to lighting conditions. Not having those features is ok since they just suck juice and have potential for breakage, but I'm just saying that it's too bad that at least one of those three couldn't be included for such a premium price. It feels very solid in terms of driving, but obviously KIA has found ways to recoup some of the weight given over to the batteries, so doors and tailgates don't exactly feel Toyota-tough, but the car is quite a bit smaller than my others.
I'm not sure I'll use Lane Keep Assist and Blind Spot warnings and all of that as a commuter car, but on the open road, sure, that could be handy. I am dying to try the adaptive cruise control, but no road trips yet.
I know these things have probably been addressed a hundred times, but I have some questions.
1. Is there any downside whatsoever to using regenerative braking to it's fullest? I have fooled with the setting a bit and gotten mine into Auto Mode (adapts for hills, etc.) and it starts up at Level 2. I move it to 3 almost immediately because I don't mind the slowing effect and it is supposedly saving me money, but I can't get the idea out of my mind that I'm wearing "something" down? Should I be saving this Eco Aggressive behavior for when I am out on a road trip?
2. Charging? I already know that 80% is recommended for a stopping point on charging, unless you need that extra capacity. I did buy a ClipperCreek charger for fast charging, but they have free outlets at work for getting a trickle charge. I drive about 20 miles a day, so I don't think I'll need to charge that often, but in terms of getting best use out of the batteries, and in the interest of a "break-in" period if such a thing exists for EVs, is there any advantage or disadvantage to trickle charging vs. fast charging? Would a mix be ok? Sucking down free miles from my employer was also on that list of reasons to buy an EV.
3. I am pretty new to the car, and this is related to the Auto Regeneration feature. I just discovered this last night on one of the menus. It was NOT turned on by default, so I'm wondering why? Most of the other defaults looked fine, but having to turn this on made me wonder if there was a cost to it? So far, I like driving the car better with it on.
Thanks in advance, hope to be a member here for a long time!
Steve