Iconic 2.0 trim loses Alarm & Active Cruise as of Nov production

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The fixed glass roofs that most clean-sheet EVs tend to have add some headroom.

But they make terrible storm chasing cars. Hail is too prevalent where I live to have a glass roof. I take a risk having a moonroof that opens, but in that case, I'm trading the delight of driving with all of the windows open, with the risk of having to replace the moonroof.
 
Possibly to increase headroom given the higher floors from the batteries? They definitely increase heat into the cabin, and I think noise too.

I’m not a fan of moonroofs either. Just give me side windows that can be put down under 50 mph without buffeting - also a tall order these days given that cars are increasingly more aerodynamic.
Glass roof reduces headroom by about 1inch. The floors are the same height as regular mini. They raised the ride height via taller springs
 
Glass roof reduces headroom by about 1inch. The floors are the same height as regular mini. They raised the ride height via taller springs

That’s a moonroof, I’m talking about fixed glass roofs (Teslas, Taycan, Mach-e, etc.). And if somehow I were not clear, I am not a fan of them!
 
That’s a moonroof, I’m talking about fixed glass roofs (Teslas, Taycan, Mach-e, etc.). And if somehow I were not clear, I am not a fan of them!
I’ve replaced those glass panels. It’s not what you think. There is lots of structural bits around where the glass sits and the glass itself is suspended in its own structure. it’s a Different roof panel slick top vs glass.
 
I’ve replaced those glass panels. It’s not what you think. There is lots of structural bits around where the glass sits and the glass itself is suspended in its own structure. it’s a Different roof panel slick top vs glass.

Are you talking about the moonroof on the Mini Cooper?
Re: fixed pano roofs, if you look at specs from Ford (for instance) the fixed glass gives more headroom over the standard metal roof.
 
Are you talking about the moonroof on the Mini Cooper?
Re: fixed pano roofs, if you look at specs from Ford (for instance) the fixed glass gives more headroom over the standard metal roof.
I’ve driven Audi , Porsche etc with a helmet and the glass roof and I didn’t fit. Solid roof I fit fine. The mini with pano roof and helmet is impossible

Ford doesn’t appear on my radar as they are a useless brand. I’m just speaking from personal experience
 
A glass roof is the future! Since at least the 1960s.

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A glass roof is the future! Since at least the 1960s.

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Why only glass roof build one bedroom on top of SE like this guy did .
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Factory-ordered option. IMO (ie, no numbers) people who order MINIs likely have other vehicles for other purposes, and don’t choose the rails. OTOH, my MA never mentioned them (nor the piano black belt line) as an option.


They weren’t available according to my sales rep. I’ve recently followed up with corporate just to make sure we weren't lied to on this too.
 
My 2021 SE doesn't have ACC and even if MINI's optical version worked as well as our Honda Clarity PHEV's radar ACC, I wouldn't use it. I hate discovering I'm going only 65 mph because I've been following a car that's gradually slowing down while the driver's on the phone. Our Clarity allows me to select non-adaptive CC (like our SE has), which works better for me.
The Clarity gets me with that ALL THE TIME. You need a chime after some set period of time to notify you that you are still under your set point or something.
 
So I guess it's time to cancel my order for the Iconic trim? The ACC and park assist are kind of deal breakers here in the DC area.
Just a note: The ACC works poorly in general since it is camera only. I would recommend checking out the Mini SE page on Facebook for lots of posts on the subject. (It's almost worthless here in sunny Arizona or if there's traffic in nearby lanes.) If you add blind spot mirrors to the side mirrors the lack of park assist wouldn't be a huge issue. The back up camera works great unless it is pitch black outside. We have park assist and have yet to use it :) All that said, the Iconic trim probably never was worth it in general unless there were specific features only available on the Iconic trim level you really wanted.
 
The parking assistance is the thing that beeps for the front and back right? (back beeping is standard, right?) I have a hard time believing that you don't find that useful.

The auto parallel parking is something different I think, but I don't remember the name for it. That option seems fairly useless.
 
The parking assistance is the thing that beeps for the front and back right? (back beeping is standard, right?) I have a hard time believing that you don't find that useful.

The auto parallel parking is something different I think, but I don't remember the name for it. That option seems fairly useless.
I think Park Assist is for automatic parallel parking.

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I looked it up and you're right. I was thinking of park distance control.
Correct, it was the Park Assist I was referring to in my earlier post. With blind spot mirrors, the back-up camera, and the park distance control, the Park Assist is a gimmick and of little value IMHO.
 
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