Hyundai owns Lucid

bwilson4web

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Finally got the EPA metrics for the Ioniq 6:
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  • Ioniq 6 efficiency, MPGe, matches Lucid top model
  • Model 3 is #3 in the ranking
Well done with on efficiency Hyundai! The city efficiency shows Tesla has a challenge but I already knew from my Model 3 that Tesla tires and wheels are heavier than needed. Only the Lucid has substantially better aerodynamic efficiency.

Now there are business issues with Lucid with purchase cost and availability. I'm pretty sure the Tesla has a purchase price advantage over the Hyundai especially when factoring in Federal subsidies. Also, not show in the Tesla SuperCharger advantage. What good is an EV if your CCS-1 charging network is terrible?

Bob Wilson
 
What good is an EV if your CCS-1 charging network is terrible?
But 361 miles of range gives you so many chances to find a working CCS charging station!

One big Hyundai advantage: they're 2 years ahead of Tesla in offering vehicle-to-load capability. I could have really used that after the last freezing rainstorm took out our power line. I'm amazed and gratified any company would dare to send a non-crossover/light truck EV to the US these days.
 
But 361 miles of range gives you so many chances to find a working CCS charging station!
Our NMC batteries have built-in aging as slowly over time, the working lithium ions are locked up in the ever expanding SEI layer. For example my 2019 Model 3 has lost some of battery capacity, 240 miles down to 215 miles today. But the SuperCharger network grew faster so I seldom need L2 charging to 'bridge the gap.' I have the option to choose L2 charging when it reduces miles or saves money.
One big Hyundai advantage: they're 2 years ahead of Tesla in offering vehicle-to-load capability. I could have really used that after the last freezing rainstorm took out our power line. I'm amazed and gratified any company would dare to send a non-crossover/light truck EV to the US these days.
My first Prius modification was to install a 1.1 kWh 12 VDC to 110 VAC inverter. For a decade, that Prius was our emergency, power out solution. I would back up to the kitchen door start the Prius and run contractor extension cords into the house to power critical loads including either the gas fired, furnace or a window air conditioner in the bedroom. In 2012, we had a four day power outage that we ran the Prius at two gallons per day while camped out at home.

Fortunately we had a second car that could reach normal power areas to fill up lawn mower gas cans to keep the Prius fueled. But without a second car, the house would have gone dark while I drove the Prius to fill up and burned some gas to return home with gas cans. Elon has mentioned this is the problem with using our EVs as an auxiliary battery power storage.

When we began transition to EVs, the 50 year old house electrical upgrade, 100 A to 200 A service, included an automatic, natural gas powered, emergency power generator large enough to run the house and charge our EVs. Elon has pointed out that using the EV battery as energy storage defeats the EV transportation often needed at the same time.

Today my Tesla carries a 300 W, pure sine wave, 12 VDC to 110 VAC inverter. Limited to 150 W by the 12 V power socket, it is enough for light duty, Tesla camping ... lights, CPAP machine, and coffee cup water heating. It even works while driving the Tesla for laptop power (or an AM radio ... NOT!)

Bob Wilson
 
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