Hyundai Ioniq 5 reveal reactions

Photo of the back of the car with Back up lights. On a side note why is the Ioniq 5 have Hyundai badges? I thought it was going to a sub EV brand?

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Drizzt said:
I heard CATL batteries perform extremely poorly in harsh environments. I live in Vermont, so I would be worried about ending up with a CATL cell.
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By "harsh environments," I assume a Vermont resident would be referring to cold weather (although hot weather poses a greater threat to battery longevity). MINI (a division of BMW) says the CATL battery in our MINI Cooper SE suffers less cold-weather range-reduction than the Samsung battery used in its sister car, the BMW i3. Our summer GOM reading of 110 miles has decreased to as low as 75 miles when the thermometer fell below 0 Fahrenheit, but I haven't driven the car to fully discharge the battery to determine how conservative the GOM is being. The EPA rates the MINI Cooper SE's range at 110 miles, but one YouTuber drove 177 miles on a single charge in nice weather.
 
salant76 said:
On a side note why is the Ioniq 5 have Hyundai badges? I thought it was going to a sub EV brand?
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A separate stand-alone brand (along the lines of Genesis) takes quite a bit of resources to get going. Genesis has it's own separate showrooms and dealer network (often next to a Hyundai dealership, but different set of salespeople). In time, Hyundai may branch out IONIQ as its own brand, once the name becomes familiar to more people. It took seven years before Genesis was branched out as a separate brand from Hyundai, and it will certainly take awhile before the IONIQ name catches on with the majority of people. Most of us here on this board are familiar with the Ioniq name because we are EV enthusiasts, but the typical person will not have even seen an Ioniq on the street before (or would recognize one if they saw it).
 
Really don't like the plastic cheap wraps around the wheel wells - on a rugged SUV like an Outback, but this car should be all one tone to show off the angles.


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Angelo said:
Really don't like the plastic cheap wraps around the wheel wells - on a rugged SUV like an Outback, but this car should be all one tone to show off the angles.
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I expect matte silver will be very popular for that very reason, Hyundai have never been subtle with their trims really, the Kona is a good example! Still, I think the Ioniq just about gets away with it due to the overall retro-future styling. Panel fit will be important, I've seen a few of the angled corners looking a bit off in some of these videos. One thing bugging me more - no rear wiper. :| Had that on a few big saloons and I've no idea why it's still, or has ever been a thing.
 
@Jimrod,

It seems like a lot of the German liftbacks do not have a rear wiper either. All 6 cars I have ever owned have been wagons, hatchbacks or liftbacks and have had a rear wiper.
 
I saw somewhere that it will only have 6.2 inches ground clearance. That is not great for a CUV. That's what the Kona EV has, which is less than its ICE version. Was hoping maybe that this car could handle our cabin road, but doesn't look like it.
 
R P said:
I saw somewhere that it will only have 6.2 inches ground clearance. That is not great for a CUV. That's what the Kona EV has, which is less than its ICE version. Was hoping maybe that this car could handle our cabin road, but doesn't look like it.
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That ground clearance figure would surprise me at all. The Model Y is only 6.5 inches and I believe the Mach E is 5.5 inches. That is why when car manufactures call these SUVs it is hilarious to me.

If ground clearance is important the VW iD.4 has 8.25 inches.
 
Olimpia said:
Looks good, my only concern is pricing...I bet it will be on the high side but we'll see.
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That'll be interesting to see. It would be madness, though, to charge too much. There's basically every reason to undercut Tesla (Being the currently dominating player in the market), if only by a couple thousand dollars.

My top concerns are
1) Pricing
2) What the range numbers ultimately shake out as
3) Seriously, the color options currently known are... limiting.
 
Jimrod said:
I expect matte silver will be very popular for that very reason, Hyundai have never been subtle with their trims really, the Kona is a good example! Still, I think the Ioniq just about gets away with it due to the overall retro-future styling. Panel fit will be important, I've seen a few of the angled corners looking a bit off in some of these videos. One thing bugging me more - no rear wiper. :| Had that on a few big saloons and I've no idea why it's still, or has ever been a thing.
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I might even consider the lack of a rear wiper a deal breaker here in Canada. Road salt and grime on hatchbacks is virtually unavoidable. Aerodynamics always deposit grime on the stubby rear ends of hatches.
 
Wildeyed said:
I might even consider the lack of a rear wiper a deal breaker here in Canada. Road salt and grime on hatchbacks is virtually unavoidable. Aerodynamics always deposit grime on the stubby rear ends of hatches.
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Yeah, for all the flash it's sometimes those simple little things that can be so significant in daily life! I always think getting the basics all in place is more important than sliding consoles you'll likely move once and never touch again... I've had 5-Series and an S90 Volvo without and it's always frustrating - and they had pretty raked windows, it'll probably be like many now with a "special water repellent coating" that gets covered in road grime in 5 minutes. :D
 
Wildeyed said:
I might even consider the lack of a rear wiper a deal breaker here in Canada. Road salt and grime on hatchbacks is virtually unavoidable. Aerodynamics always deposit grime on the stubby rear ends of hatches.
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This pic of the IONIQ 5 does not bode well in this regard to the lack of rear wiper for winter climes. [source]
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insightman said:
By "harsh environments," I assume a Vermont resident would be referring to cold weather (although hot weather poses a greater threat to battery longevity). MINI (a division of BMW) says the CATL battery in our MINI Cooper SE suffers less cold-weather range-reduction than the Samsung battery used in its sister car, the BMW i3. Our summer GOM reading of 110 miles has decreased to as low as 75 miles when the thermometer fell below 0 Fahrenheit, but I haven't driven the car to fully discharge the battery to determine how conservative the GOM is being. The EPA rates the MINI Cooper SE's range at 110 miles, but one YouTuber drove 177 miles on a single charge in nice weather.
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We knew in July 2017 that CATL was readying to ship LFP batteries for Tesla China Model 3s. Now, however, there are reports from China that are likely to put a damper on the joy of the revised Model 3: According to the Chinese electric car portal d1ev.com, more and more users are complaining about the insufficient range and charging power with the new LFP batteries.

According to this, several owners noticed problems with the LFP battery after receiving their Model 3. In winter conditions, the range is significantly limited and the battery cannot be charged 100 percent.

For example, a reader from Beijing who owns the Model 3 with the LFP battery reports that a range of 420 kilometers was displayed after the full charge, but only 5 percent charge was left after a distance of 214 kilometers. After the driver has charged 52 kWh for an hour, the display shows 420 kilometers again. The owner says he uses his car for short journeys, parks it in an underground car park at night and in a parking lot during the day.


A Tesla dealer also admitted that one of his customers got quite angry with him after buying one of the new Model 3s with an LFP battery. The buyer asked the dealer to swap in the vehicle and get him a Model 3 with the old cell chemistry instead.
 
And here's EV winter range comparison done in Norway. Korean EV's outperformed other manufacturers, with Kona only 9% below the advertised range while typical range loss in winter is 20% across EVs. Looks like main culprit is the heat pump. Korean EVs came with heat pump standard. I heard this 'revolutionary' option will become available (standard?) in Tesla soon.

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https://insideevs.com/news/404632/winter-range-test-best-evs-cold-weather/
 
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R P said:
I saw somewhere that it will only have 6.2 inches ground clearance. That is not great for a CUV. That's what the Kona EV has, which is less than its ICE version. Was hoping maybe that this car could handle our cabin road, but doesn't look like it.
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Does anyone know the ground clearance for the Ariya? Looking for a car that's good in the snow, tho not going to be off roading.
 
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