Fully charged under 100 miles

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Probably depends on how you last drove it. It will vary based on mode, driving habits and HVAC settings. If your heavy footed and brake late, or in super hot/cold climate your efficiency will go down.

Example, Ive seen mine go from sub 100 miles at 100% because of hooning around previous charge and then get 140miles out of the next full charge.
 
There’s a reason that’s called a “Guess-o-Meter”. I’ve seen that number stay the same for miles or go up when descending. It supposedly learns from you previous drive and adjusts as you drive. You will learn the car over time and get to know what it does in various conditions. Unless I’m on snow tires in the winter, my range always far exceeds what the gauge says when I unplug.
 
I took my son to a basketball scrimmage around 35 miles away from home, traffic was moving at 80+ mph, I used 40% of my battery just getting there at that speed since I did not want to be the slow car holding up traffic. On the way back, traffic speed averaged 70-75 mph, and I used green mode (I forgot to set green mode going there though), only used 25%. I'm sure wind and other factors were at play but I kept thinking in my mind, as long as I get there with 50% battery left I will be fine. The GOM sucks, and I wish it could be hidden from view. Sorry for the rant. My GOM never read more than 92 miles in the week of owning my SE. I am getting used to ignoring it.
 
Mine has never shown over 100 miles in the 7 months I've owned it, though I do always have it in sport mode. I guess it might read over 100 if I switched to green.
 
I have a feeling that different members on here have different software versions.
If people are seeing 160 miles after driving carefully then it is an algorithm that takes into account your driving.
Mine does not.
We always get 150-170 miles of range because we drive in suburbia and gently in mid mode and it never adjusts to reflect anything like that.
At most we see the mid 120’s and at lowest we see 97 miles. Most of the time it’s 106-111. And whether it goes up or down has no difference in how I drive it.
If I beat on it it doesn’t go down, if I I granny it it doesn’t go up.
The only thing it seems to take I to consideration is temperature. So on my software version I believe it is rated range with an adjustment for temperature and that’s it.
Others must have different software OR their rated range is on say WLTP vs EPA?

As for 60 miles, for me, that would consume 50% at 75mph and about 35% if I was driving around at 40-45mph in the city/suburbia. So I’d be happy with a reading 10% higher to ensure I have a buffer.
 
AndysComputer said:
I have a feeling that different members on here have different software versions.
If people are seeing 160 miles after driving carefully then it is an algorithm that takes into account your driving.
Mine does not.
We always get 150-170 miles of range because we drive in suburbia and gently in mid mode and it never adjusts to reflect anything like that.
At most we see the mid 120’s and at lowest we see 97 miles. Most of the time it’s 106-111. And whether it goes up or down has no difference in how I drive it.
If I beat on it it doesn’t go down, if I I granny it it doesn’t go up.
The only thing it seems to take I to consideration is temperature. So on my software version I believe it is rated range with an adjustment for temperature and that’s it.
Others must have different software OR their rated range is on say WLTP vs EPA?

As for 60 miles, for me, that would consume 50% at 75mph and about 35% if I was driving around at 40-45mph in the city/suburbia. So I’d be happy with a reading 10% higher to ensure I have a buffer.
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Thank you as always!
 
Everything depends on your driving style, road conditions, headwind etc. there’s no way the GOM can predict any of that. I agree 50% is about average on a nice day on the highway. I’ve also seen the battery net usage only drop 2-3% over 55 miles with 7000’ of decent.
 
Lokie said:
Just received my 2023 Mini SE three weeks ago. Charged the vehicle three times but fully charged it only shows 96 miles. Any ideas why it doesn’t show more?

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Congrats on your 2023! And welcome to the forum. Have you found the 'hidden' button on the instrument cluster to reset your trip odometer? It's on the upper left of the display just out of sight. And the top button on your left stalk rotates the display between batt-%, trip odometer, mi/kWh, etc. I would recommend you monitor your battery usage for a few weeks to see how you are doing - at a full charge reset the odometer to zero, then just keep an eye on batt-% and miles driven. I think you'll find that you probably get around 120 miles for most usage situations, regardless of what the GOM is showing.

I wrote an IOS shortcut for iPhone which calculates estimated range. I can share a link if you want it.
 
Not that it matters, since we know the GOM is useless, but...

I'd never seen over 100 miles on the GOM until yesterday, when I made some changes to the instrument cluster through Bimmercode and it reset the ECU. When it rebooted it went from 93 miles to 109 miles.

Like I say, doesn't matter to me either way, I always drive it in sport and just use battery %.
 
GvilleGuy said:
Congrats on your 2023! And welcome to the forum. Have you found the 'hidden' button on the instrument cluster to reset your trip odometer? It's on the upper left of the display just out of sight. And the top button on your left stalk rotates the display between batt-%, trip odometer, mi/kWh, etc. I would recommend you monitor your battery usage for a few weeks to see how you are doing - at a full charge reset the odometer to zero, then just keep an eye on batt-% and miles driven. I think you'll find that you probably get around 120 miles for most usage situations, regardless of what the GOM is showing.

I wrote an IOS shortcut for iPhone which calculates estimated range. I can share a link if you want it.
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Any chance we get an Android version? Or maybe you can walk us through the logic. Id be happy to give credit to you if I was able to make something similar for android
 
A lot of it depends on what tires/wheels you have it on the car... 15 inch will get you more than 17 or 18 inch wheel... + weather and overall driving styles - a lot factors play part in this. So if you want to talk about the range - please specify the tires/wheels/pressure used - weather conditions and driving mode (green - Sports?) + your driving style + driving in suburban internal roads or highway (speed makes a lot of difference in EVs)
 
zedzag said:
Any chance we get an Android version? Or maybe you can walk us through the logic. Id be happy to give credit to you if I was able to make something similar for android
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I don't need credit for math. :-)

You want to calculate mi/kWh (miles driven per kWh of battery depleted) in order to estimate your miles left in the battery. This assumes the driving conditions for the rest of your trip are similar to what you just drove.

You need to know:
USABLE battery capacity of the SE: 28.9 kWh
Start-battery %
End-battery %
Total miles driven

Assume you started with 100% charge and drove 100 miles, with an end-batt% of 20%:

You USED 80% of the battery: In kWh you used 28.9 capacity x .80 = 23.12 kWh

The miles/kWh = 100 miles / 23.12 kWh = 4.32 mi/kWh

Your REMAINING batt capacity is 28.9 - 23.12 = 5.78 kWh

RANGE LEFT would be mi/kWh x REMAINING capacity: 4.32 x 5.78 = 24.96 miles

TOTAL RANGE = 100 + 24.96 = 124.96 miles
 
Getting used to using the battery % only on my '23 SE.

How far down do most of you run the battery? I've gone as low as about 20% over the last 2 weeks.
 
yoomini said:
Getting used to using the battery % only on my '23 SE.

How far down do most of you run the battery? I've gone as low as about 20% over the last 2 weeks.
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In nearly 2 years, I've never seen the short side of 30%, but 99% of my driving is around town.

I used to always drive my new cars out of gas to see how many miles were left when the red fuel light came on. I carried a gas-can with me on those runs. I'm not willing to put my Honda generator in the back of my SE so I can test my SE's ultimate range. I'd believe I could smell the gasoline in my SE for years afterwards.
 
I’ve run it down to 7% on a trip but typically we charge it to 100% overnight when we know we will be using it the next day (not a big fan of leaving it at 100 for days) and we typically run it down to about 50% over a few days and we don’t mind leaving it sitting there, but once we get that low and I know we will be using the car the next day I charge back up to 100%.
 
GvilleGuy said:
I don't need credit for math. :)

You want to calculate mi/kWh (miles driven per kWh of battery depleted) in order to estimate your miles left in the battery. This assumes the driving conditions for the rest of your trip are similar to what you just drove.

You need to know:
USABLE battery capacity of the SE: 28.9 kWh
Start-battery %
End-battery %
Total miles driven

Assume you started with 100% charge and drove 100 miles, with an end-batt% of 20%:

You USED 80% of the battery: In kWh you used 28.9 capacity x .80 = 23.12 kWh

The miles/kWh = 100 miles / 23.12 kWh = 4.32 mi/kWh

Your REMAINING batt capacity is 28.9 - 23.12 = 5.78 kWh

RANGE LEFT would be mi/kWh x REMAINING capacity: 4.32 x 5.78 = 24.96 miles

TOTAL RANGE = 100 + 24.96 = 124.96 miles
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This is really helpful. Another question, how does one calculate the speed one must maintain on avg to meet a certain mi/kwh target
 
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