EVgo adding Tesla plugs

My understanding is there is a Tesla-to-CCS adapter in Korea. Since I already have a J1772 adapter, it strikes me as the way to go. Bi-directional adapter with a controller for each way.

Bob Wilson
 
I expect Tesla will try to force everyone onto their app, as the only means of interacting, rather than
do the accessible thing and also install prox and/or credit-card readers. And of course the apps
won't be available directly from Tesla's site. And if you're someplace without appropriate cell
service, you're probably hosed.

_H*
 
teslarati97 said:
What a relief. Paying $2/min for supercharging (~$0.50-0.67/kWh @ 180kW-250kW) can get very expensive!
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My experience with EVgo in the northeast has been even more expensive than that. EVgo also charges per time, and their “fast” chargers are very slow. 50kW nominal, more like 35kW in the real world. And I end up paying between 50¢ and $1 per kWh for the privilege. EVgo is to be avoided at all costs - it is a last resort network only.


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The newest one around here is 100KW and 350KW. No Tesla plug on it.

I believe all of the GM paid for ones are 350KW and 100KW.

They are currently listed at 29 cents per minute. That's a good price for a Hyundai Ioniq 5.
 
I prefer to see a mix of time and kWh. Time only makes older, slower EVs too expensive to take cross country travel.

Electric kWh only lets slower charging EVs block faster EVs from completing their trips in a timely fashion.

So the charge rate billing schedule of SuperChargers makes sense.
 
marshall said:
The newest one around here is 100KW and 350KW. No Tesla plug on it.

I believe all of the GM paid for ones are 350KW and 100KW.

They are currently listed at 29 cents per minute. That's a good price for a Hyundai Ioniq 5.
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You are lucky. EVgo installed 100A chargers in upstate NY and New England years ago and has done nothing since.


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bwilson4web said:
I prefer to see a mix of time and kWh. Time only makes older, slower EVs too expensive to take cross country travel.

Electric kWh only lets slower charging EVs block faster EVs from completing their trips in a timely fashion.

So the charge rate billing schedule of SuperChargers makes sense.
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As one who travels everywhere in a Bolt, I get it. Of course I don’t want to pay more than the next guy. At the same time, time is a resource too and if I take longer to gain the range I need, I may be blocking the charger from someone else who needs it.


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GetOffYourGas said:
As one who travels everywhere in a Bolt, I get it. Of course I don’t want to pay more than the next guy. At the same time, time is a resource too and if I take longer to gain the range I need, I may be blocking the charger from someone else who needs it.


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Actually, I get it but what you need is "more pumps" with tiered metering, and options. Example: 10 or so charging stations, you want 150A fast 20-80, you pay 0.50/KWH, you have time? 50A is 0.38, want to got to a full 100% over a couple hours, hit the button, it's 0.25/kwh, etc, etc. If you are the 16th arrival, and everything is full, ... Well you might only get 7.2AC or something until something free's up, or you plug in and it kicks off as soon as the juice is available.

The paradigms are changing. Fast charging is important, but I think "overnight" charging may be more critical. In particular I think the hotel/motel industry is about to see the biggest shift. I expect rows of 5.6-7.2AC units with technology, swipe your guest card to turn it on type stuff.
 
My opinion - it makes the most sense to charge for kWh the same way a gas pump charges for gallons of gasoline. If there aren't enough chargers to prevent charging congestion, IMO the solution is to add more chargers, not penalize cars that can't charge quickly. I'm glad that in California the DC fast charging companies are switching to the kWh paradigm.

For example, the nearest EVGo station to my home uses a time of use approach:
  • Energy rate prices / kWh
  • 12AM - 08AM : $0.35
  • 08AM - 04PM : $0.45
  • 04PM - 09PM : $0.52
  • 09PM - 12AM : $0.45
 
bwilson4web said:
That map is useless for my 3 year old, 68,000 mile, Tesla Model 3. Plugshare has much better, maps including L2 charging locations.

Bob Wilson
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You are misreading what the map is telling us. The map has to do with where the federal government will invest the infrastructure money. The map helps to show where the under-served, and low income areas are located.

Understand that 40% of the charging infrastructure money is going to disadvantage communities. https://www.transportation.gov/equity-Justice40
 
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Understand that 40% of the charging infrastructure money is going to disadvantage communities. https://www.transportation.gov/equity-Justice40[/QUOTE]
Is this where the need is greatest? How many of the disadvantaged are going to buy EVs, esp with inflation raging and "real" incomes dropping?

How does this support the green economy, when EV infrastructure money is diverted from where it is needed the most to where it is needed least? One of the biggest complaints from those that want (and can afford) to buy an EV is lack of charging infrastructure. We need to get high polluting SUVs and trucks off the road, not give them reason to stay status quo.
 
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