It's super annoying. I have x2 and x5 and so used to rotating the dial clockwise. Now in Mini, I have to rotate counter clockwise. Is there a way to change this even via coding?
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drdunkyn
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Doesn't appear to be based on their website https://bimmercode.app/cars/f56/
Guess I'll have to adjust myself.
chrunck
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It's also the reverse of literally every UI that's ever existed*. Such a bizarre decision.
*This probably isn't true, but still, it feels backwards.
On a similar topic, I don't like that they moved around the volume and track buttons on the steering wheel. It used to be that volume up was up, volume down was down, next track was right, and previous track was left. Perfectly sensible. Now volume up is right, next track is down (wtf), previous track is up? Who designed this?
*This probably isn't true, but still, it feels backwards.
On a similar topic, I don't like that they moved around the volume and track buttons on the steering wheel. It used to be that volume up was up, volume down was down, next track was right, and previous track was left. Perfectly sensible. Now volume up is right, next track is down (wtf), previous track is up? Who designed this?
drdunkyn
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Damn, that seems so counter-intuitive. On my m240i there's a roller button to go up/down for track, which reduced steering wheels real estate, but I get they're trying to simplify. Unexplainable direction change, but we can adapt! Would be nice to be able to change for our preferences, though...
teslarati97
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It only makes sense if you have a HUD because of the vertical track listing. I too prefer the BMW roller button as well.
drdunkyn
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Definitely "First World Problems"!!!
wessy
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No question about it! But it is super annoying that BMW arbitrarily imposes on MINI owners a control wheel that works in the opposite direction from the control wheels in BMWs just to make MINIs different from BMWs. For the sole purpose of reminding MINI owners that theirs is the “lesser” brand.
Presumably their rationale is that it — along with the equally indefensible ways BMW selectively cheaps out on MINIs (e.g., unavailability of power seats in Coopers, econocar flip-up plastic HUD, fiddly other stuff I’ve noticed but can’t recall at the moment) — will prompt MINI owners to aspire to “graduate” to the true upscale parent BMW brand. But it just ends up punishing for their brand loyalty those BMW owners who also park a MINI in their garage.
Stop taking swipes at the premium character of the MINI lineup that you have otherwise taken so many laudable steps to establish as a premium brand, BMW.
wessy
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Do NOT get me started about that!
LOL
drdunkyn
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Yeah, agreed, though I haven't partaken in the MINI line yet, my venture into BMW has only been in the Baby-BMW (and clearly down-scaled model) 2 series. I really don't mind the lower class features, because the performance has been amazing. I also NEVER use the electric seat adjustments coming from a 2001 Jetta, though I appreciate that the feature appeals to multiple users. But clearly BMW has decided to continue to differentiate their lines accordingly, especially with the bizarre user interface inverse implementation reports. HOWEVER, I can't stand the look of the i3, which is why I'm happy they maintained the look of the SE for us proletariat types! I am pleased to not pay an inordinate expense to keep up the BMW brand!No question about it! But it is super annoying that BMW arbitrarily imposes on MINI owners a control wheel that works in the opposite direction from the control wheels in BMWs just to make it different. For the sole purpose of reminding MINI owners that theirs is the “lesser” brand.
Presumably their rationale is that it — along with the equally indefensible ways BMW selectively cheaps out on MINIs (e.g., unavailability of power seats in Coopers, econocar flip-up plastic HUD, fiddly other stuff I’ve noticed but can’t recall at the moment) — will prompt MINI owners to aspire to “graduate” to the true upscale parent BMW brand. But it just ends up punishing for their brand loyalty those BMW owners who also park a MINI in their garage.
Stop taking swipes at the premium character of the MINI lineup that you have otherwise taken so many laudable steps to establish as a premium brand, BMW.
AndysComputer
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I dislike the volume being left to right as it’s different to every other car, however I notice that the up/down track skip works because the dash gauge cluster shows the track listings for the MP3’s on my usb stick do you are going up and down through that list and selecting the one you want with the center ok button. So that makes sense but it leaves lot and right for volume control…
Far more than this I hate that the drive selector is pulled backwards to fit forwards, and forwards to go backwards. However my wife pointed out that’s how her previous automatic was if you’re starting for the middle neutral position. Reverse would be forwards from neutral, drive would be back from neutral. So she figured out why it is that way. Bad call on their part though allowing the past to guide the future. I guess they didn’t want to pay to print a new shifter.
Far more than this I hate that the drive selector is pulled backwards to fit forwards, and forwards to go backwards. However my wife pointed out that’s how her previous automatic was if you’re starting for the middle neutral position. Reverse would be forwards from neutral, drive would be back from neutral. So she figured out why it is that way. Bad call on their part though allowing the past to guide the future. I guess they didn’t want to pay to print a new shifter.
teslarati97
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I'm guessing the shifter was designed with the idea of "pulling" yourself up a railing to go forward and "pushing" off to go backwards. At any rate for those who are used to BMW & MINI 6-speed manuals, the reverse get was a firm left (to pass the safety) and then forward.
Texas22Step
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No question about it! But it is super annoying that BMW arbitrarily imposes on MINI owners a control wheel that works in the opposite direction from the control wheels in BMWs just to make MINIs different from BMWs. For the sole purpose of reminding MINI owners that theirs is the “lesser” brand.
Presumably their rationale is that it — along with the equally indefensible ways BMW selectively cheaps out on MINIs (e.g., unavailability of power seats in Coopers, econocar flip-up plastic HUD, fiddly other stuff I’ve noticed but can’t recall at the moment) — will prompt MINI owners to aspire to “graduate” to the true upscale parent BMW brand. But it just ends up punishing for their brand loyalty those BMW owners who also park a MINI in their garage.
Stop taking swipes at the premium character of the MINI lineup that you have otherwise taken so many laudable steps to establish as a premium brand, BMW.
Well said. However, I write off some of this stuff as part of the "quirkiness" of MINIs that was a part of our MINI purchase decision in the first place. English (Jaguar) cars and French (Renault) cars that I have owned in the past were all interestingly "quirky" in one way or another, which I usually appreciated but sometimes loathed at the same time. In the end, I appreciate a world that offers more ice cream flavors than vanilla.
F14Scott
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In the aviation world:
If it's weird, it's British.
If it's ugly, it's French.
If it's weird *and* ugly, it's Russian.