Article from LA Times.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/oth...ade-in-my-electric-car-here-s-why/ar-AA1adENF
https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/oth...ade-in-my-electric-car-here-s-why/ar-AA1adENF
The author doesn't mention the EV with the well-known solution for traveling long distances: Tesla.
Also didn't include America's best selling "self-charging" EV brand: TOYOTA hybrids.The author doesn't mention the EV with the well-known solution for traveling long distances: Tesla.
Should our conclusion instead be that the present CCS charging station business model is not profitable? Is raising charging fees the only way to make the business profitable enough to incentivize reliability?Kyle harps on non Tesla charging a lot lately too, and it seems to upset some folks, but I 100% agree with Kyle. CCS is a mess. The EA station to my north is DOWN AGAIN. AND the EA app says its UP! It literally will maroon people who arrive to find it not working, as there are no alternatives. We had some "backup" 50 kW Caltrans chargers along US395, but Caltrans hasn't been maintaining them (or paying a contract to have them maintained) and now they are all dead.
Some days I seriously think the folks in charge of CCS infrastructure are secretly working behind the scenes to *MAKE* EV adoption fail. What better way to convince the masses to NOT buy EVs than to install crappy, unreliable charging.
So the EPA is secretly working behind the scenes to make EV adoption fail since 2016?Some days I seriously think the folks in charge of CCS infrastructure are secretly working behind the scenes to *MAKE* EV adoption fail. What better way to convince the masses to NOT buy EVs than to install crappy, unreliable charging.
Well if the utility companies reduced their demand charges that would make a difference.Should our conclusion instead be that the present CCS charging station business model is not profitable? Is raising charging fees the only way to make the business profitable enough to incentivize reliability?
Locally here, according to PlugShare, there are 12 CCS stations at 4 locations, of which 5 are currently unavailable. One of the available stations had a report of not working yesterday.
That's not good folks.
I keep saying all charging stations should be on the 'net so apps can determinine their status--including the interval since the last successful charging session (which might be zero if it is currently conducting a successful charging session). This requirement would reveal which charging networks are the most reliable and, hopefully, spur the bad charging networks to improve.I know, but others (even here) just whitewash this kind of thing. EV chargers should work 99.999% of the time. Their status in any APP should be correct, should be working when you arrive, your payment should "just work", and activation should work the first time every time.
That's what non early adopters are going to expect, and demand.
Drivers need instant confirmation that the charging station (or group of them) they're driving towards is operational. Regulations won't help a driver if that charging station goes down en route.Which "net", though? Obviously a given charging outfit has all its own chargers on a net of some sort, but
only some of them also feed that data to, say, Plugshare in real-enough time to show updated status. Better
"regulation" might start requiring them to conform to some kind of standard in that area.
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99.999% is not realistic. gas pumps have been around for decades and don't have that level of reliability, usually the card reader is the failure point. I think I read somewhere that for the federal money they need something around 99% which is way better than what we have now. 97 or 98% would be pretty good.I know, but others (even here) just whitewash this kind of thing. EV chargers should work 99.999% of the time. Their status in any APP should be correct, should be working when you arrive, your payment should "just work", and activation should work the first time every time.
That's what non early adopters are going to expect, and demand.
Thanks! I just signed up. Thinking of driving across Canada and Ontario is a huge chunk of that.One little bright light in this mess. IVY charging in Ontario Canada (publicly owned) is now "charging" by the KWH instead of time connected. This is not only a huge boon for slower charging cars like my Leaf but the rate is so low I have to wonder if it's some kind of introductory offer. Twice I have connected to test their revamped system. Both times charging started without a hitch and the amount came to 14 cents per KWH which is the same I pay at home using the cars timer to top up during off peak hours.