@_teslatruth twitter censorship: Tesla just do your own ad free Twitter

[101101]

Twitter was good to the extent that it bypassed the filter of sponsorship but now the sponsor filter has arrived on Twitter. Tesla doesn't do ads. Do good products and save on the ads. The bribery for lies industry hates that. Tesla can do its own Twitter- it won't be making any money off of it, just providing the server space and the simple software. Totally worth it and none of the fossil fuel industry bribing Twitter on the side to filter out the truth about Tesla relative to its paid lies on Twitter. And now for cover Twitter says it won't be doing political ads during the election, that is rich.

Sponsorship was never about selling products it was always about bribery based capture of media or censorship and thought control, it was always propaganda to support supply side elite bs- might as well call it employer class media or enclosed captured speech. There is no way a democracy can survive such a core conflict of interest for long. And it shows, the fossil fuel industry would have been over 50-70 years ago and we wouldn't have been facing a climate crisis and the related instability if we didn't have garbage sponsored media.

Worst of all is the fake PBS which takes ads (not public!- thank to Nixon) and now donations (after they were already sponsor captured due to Nixon's changes) and then after this complete taint take tax dollars!!! They should not be allowed to take ads and call themselves public and never allowed to take donations if they get tax or sponsor money. PBS is taking donations to try to siphon money away from stations that take only donations to in effect starve and censor them. But pure idiocy is any media that has a subscription but then has ads on top of it. Guaranteed that any outlet that takes sponsor money is no more than an ad in the end, at best and normally its a platform for lies. Sponsored search is worst of all- sponsor optimized SEO.

Maybe Tesla could do something on the MAID SAFE's SAFE network once its up and running. SAFE + SOLID + Tesla = no more censorship.

Ellison said his cat could write better software than the Uber app/system, and twitter has to be easier to do than Uber. As for reddit being good- not its not, if I am not mistaken its Sony and everyone knows the history of that company- the public took it off line and doxed it and then it got the Obama admin (how embarrassing for the US) to say it was NK. Also reddit isn't as real time or persistent. Twitter isn't that innovated its just old time chat IRC that is distributed.

Call it Tesla chat or something, say its not social media and keep it super low key.

 

[101101]

I think some of this harassment must becoming because some quarters are afraid of Musk as a communicator and afraid of the world view. It reminds me of the way the right threatened Clinton and that caused him to run for president and win. We are just coming up on 1 million Teslas sold but there are 30 million people that follow what Musk says on Twitter- that's potentially 30 million sales. Those 30 million are the seeds for Tesla's own twitter. All he has to do is link to it or ask those that follow his thoughts to link to it. The moronic FCC may have been very twitter specific, will he censor on a Tesla site? Tesla is already doing apps.

 

[bwilson4web]

Twitter was good to the extent that it bypassed the filter of sponsorship but now the sponsor filter has arrived on Twitter. ...

Are you referring to the text "Promoted" that shows below unsolicited (aka., not followed) commercial tweets?

Bob Wilson

 

[101101]

I am saying that other media is for the sponsors, by the sponsors (literally owned by the sponsors) and it exists to lie the public about the public interests on behalf the elite sponsor's interests. It is about narrative control. Now what's happened instead of paying for he ads they don't need (Tesla is proof of that) is they just pay profession shills to go on twitter and spread their spin and narrative control and then tell twitter in one way or another through moderator capture or through threatening to pull their sponsorship to cancel the accounts of people that challenges their lies and propaganda. I am also saying that I believe his type of bribe based behavior should be flat illegal and twitter should lose its charter if it engages in it- and we used to have laws that provided for exactly that kind of correction and we need them back.

I've never actually installed the twitter app or had a twitter account or tweeted or used twitter so there is a sense in which I don't know what I am talking about. I don't use social media but I have read enough Tweets to have an idea. When social media is on something more like Maidsafe's SAFE network I may use it in limited ways. But I did anticipated something like Twitter and was overjoyed to see something like Twitter that would bypass the sponsor filter but now it is sad to learn that the sponsors have just gotten through on twitter and appear to quite obviously be using their bribery and blackmail to capture the moderation and produce their normal censorship so it is the same pay for censorship and enabling lies bs as before- which has ruined US society and put it and the world at serious risk.

We can't have our primary information systems based around telling lies for pay. Part of the solution is to have totally unsponsored systems based on decentralized open source transparent code (not subject to neutrality manipulations and throttling etc.) with strong charters subject to revocation that also prevent the speech capture and speech enclosure. The GOP and the fool 'moderates' would have been gone long ago and we wouldn't have a society based on enabling an entitled oppressor class. Every time the GOP gets in it literally tries to F over the people every way it can- that behavior would result in life long incarcerations- we certainly wouldn't have total idiots in power. Take Ajit Pai the APA would be used to go after him for violating the constitutional rights of every US citizen- couldn't matter less if the 'president' told him to do it- normally that is civil but my understanding is it can be criminal- I hope the next admin prosecutes Pai to the full extent of the law- you can't be a self righteous crook and be holier than thou about selling the people out- you can't claim that money exonerates you- money damns you. We really can't have or abide psychopaths and sociopaths in power it has to be clear to them that if they reach for power they will burned at the stake. I am hoping after we right the egregious wrongs we can weaken substantially the executive branch- replace the president with a committee or magic eight ball or software or weak prime minister or make it so the president and VP must agree on any act etc. The founding fathers were more worried about outside forces but our problems are more domestic now.

Money is not speech and corporations are not people- we should go back and strip the SC members that of their titles that put this sell out forward, in retrospect they need the same kind of condemnation that Hitler got because it put us all at that level of risk. I don't think the rich should be able to run for office without giving away their wealth first. And I don't think its speech quelling to say that if someone knowingly misleads the public about the public interest for profit they should be stripped of all their assets through immediate confiscation (down to the Cayman islands) and do life in solitary without the possibility of parole and also there should be no statute of limitations on this. Lying to the public for money should get the strongest condemnation society can provide. I'd say it would even merit a human version of the death penalty but I don't trust human fallibility on that and don't want the state empowered that way. But a politician who takes a single cent or someone that gives a single cent to a politician (aside from the limited public stipend to live on if necessary) needs the same response, all the money and the time in that life are then forfeit. And why do I think these things? Because these behaviors accumulate and put every one's life at risk for the most unnecessary and unacceptable of reasons.

Fossil fuels up to about 1950 were necessary after that they grew into organized crime and terrorism and we couldn't stop it because the weak protections like the free speech doctrine and fairness doctrine weren't enough. Around that time we actually got tech suppression laws so called economic disruption laws- laws to keep the artificial scarcity regime in place. That is total corruption. With the right laws every fossil fuel company would be nationalized most of the officers arrested and the share holders divested for less than nothing (real values of the holdings is negative and should yield actual debt!) and we could be off fossil fuels over-night, but under the corruption, organized crime asserts 'rights' to continue to engage in obvious crime! Just pulling the government subsidies would collapse it. Just letting the public know the truth about its economics and how they've always been underwater would do it. Its collapsing now anyway- but with Dodd Frank they can supposedly keep trying to bail it out without state oversight or permission. We never would have had the Bushes, or Hillary or Biden- none of the fossil fuel execs types after Eisenhower- they couldn't hid corrupt useless rent seeking.

I also don't think state secrets can be allowed because they are a slipper slope that lead to total corruption. I find the expediency arguments totally un-compelling- Enigma codes etc., no, that stuff is just about keeping elite props in place, total transparency is necessary and no secrecy because secrecy is the antithetical to the privacy we need to have human rights.

 

[bwilson4web]

I've never actually installed the twitter app or had a twitter account or tweeted or used twitter so there is a sense in which I don't know what I am talking about.

Yet fully qualified to write hundreds of words that occasionally mention 'twitter.' It reminds me of a virgin religious leader writing about sex.

On twitter, I follow Elon Musk and Robert Llewellyn but otherwise have no use for it. As for Facebook, only blood kin and family friends are on my lists. Facebook is a forum thread for close friends and family and nothing else.

Bob Wilson

 

[ericy]

On twitter, I follow Elon Musk and Robert Llewellyn but otherwise have no use for it. As for Facebook, only blood kin and family friends are on my lists. Facebook is a forum thread for close friends and family and nothing else.

You can always find things on twitter that are useful without sinking into the morass. "National Hurricane Center", a couple of "National Weather Service" offices, state police (hear about road closures due to accidents, and whatnot), state dept of transportation (find out about local roadwork).

I don't even have Facebook. I have no use for the thing myself.

 

[Pushmi-Pullyu]

Are you referring to the text "Promoted" that shows below unsolicited (aka., not followed) commercial tweets?

Twitter recently announced that they will no longer accept any political ads. None at all.

I don't know if this is what prompted this latest wall-of-text rant from our resident conspiracy theorist, but it might in some perhaps indirect way be what set him off in this particular random direction.

BTW -- What the heck is this thread doing in the "General" section? If there is any thread that should be in "Off Topic", it's this one.