Well, there we go ... MINI to adopt NACS in North America

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  1. fishbert

    fishbert Well-Known Member

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  3. insightman

    insightman Well-Known Member Subscriber

    Motoring File reports "implementation scheduled for 2025." That's good, so when the J01 arrives, MINI owners won't have to fiddle with NACS adapters.
     
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  4. Puppethead

    Puppethead Well-Known Member

    After having my charge port area disassembled for the rodent damage, it looked to me like it'd be pretty simple to replace the whole J1772/CCS1 receptacle with a NACS one if MINI makes the part available for F56 SEs.

    *edit* oops, I meant CCS1
     
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  5. Racejoe

    Racejoe Member

    That would be pretty sweet.
     
  6. ghost

    ghost Active Member

    The best thing about owning a Tesla is the charging infrastructure.

    Before other companies starting to adopt the nacs, someone told me that Tesla is going to become a very profitable charging company. Looks like he was right.
     
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  8. insightman

    insightman Well-Known Member Subscriber

    I don't imagine Tesla owners are happy about sharing the Superchargers they've had all to themselves until now. Also, losing the exclusive charging locations can't help Tesla sales.
     
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  9. ghost

    ghost Active Member

    It seems every public charging station near me is occupied by Teslas, so it serves them right.
     
  10. ericy

    ericy Well-Known Member

    Cybertruck will reportedly be 800V, so expect to see them at the EA 350kW chargers.
     
  11. fishbert

    fishbert Well-Known Member

    I don't expect to see the Cybertruck anywhere, really.
    It's fugly, very late to the EV pickup market, and was never going to live up to the sales pitch of 4 years ago. Destined to flop, hard.
     
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  13. GetOffYourGas

    GetOffYourGas Well-Known Member

    Given that something like 70% of EVs on US roads are already Teslas, this isn’t going to be the deluge some people make it out to be.


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  14. GetOffYourGas

    GetOffYourGas Well-Known Member

    Perfect. So by the time they bring my convertible to the States, it will have an NACS port installed.


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  15. pictsidhe

    pictsidhe Well-Known Member

    It's a little more complex than swapping the port.
    NACS uses one pair of conductors for both AC and DC power. CCS/SAE uses separate ones. It may be possible to reprogram the OBC and have an adapter port. Or it may need a different OBC. I believe OBCs are $fewk. Charging communication is already compatible, when Tesla deigns to let us use superchargers.
     
  16. I feel like I bought Betamax when everybody else got VHS
     
  17. pictsidhe

    pictsidhe Well-Known Member

    Poor comparison. Betamax was actually the superior system.
    But this time, NACS is.
    I hope that cheered you up . :p
     
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  18. JonR

    JonR Well-Known Member

    Unless there are chargers installed not owned by Tesla with the NACS cable or the ability to use an existing J1772 station to a NACS equipped car, then I won't be buying another electric car. NACS might be "better" but it is still way worse with it attached to Musk.
     
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  19. teslarati97

    teslarati97 Well-Known Member

    NACS is just the plug design and the protocols will be under ISO 15118-2 like CCS1 (and CCS2). This may also imply that current Teslas might not be able to charge at a non-supercharger NACS natively and will have to adapt the CCS1-to-Tesla instead!

    What we don't know for sure is whether or not a fully occupied Tesla Supercharger site will prioritize Tesla vehicles and derate the non-Tesla NACS vehicles.
     
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  20. pictsidhe

    pictsidhe Well-Known Member

    That is already happening. I've been to two eVgo stations that had Tesla cables. It is just a cable change, so not hard to implement. Once The not-Tesla manufacturers start fitting NACS ports, then you will see NACS cables proliferating at not-Tesla stations. At first, possibly at the expense of Chademo. Sorry, Leafers!
     
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  21. SameGuy

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    YUL
    I've done zero research, but a buddy has a line on a low-mileage Gen 2 Leaf. Does any company offer CHAdeMOectomies?
     
  22. insightman

    insightman Well-Known Member Subscriber

    One answer from reddit is "no," due to differences in signal handshaking. The reddit contributor says there's a European company that can convert CHAdeMO to the European CCS, but it's not cheap. Loved "CHAdeMOectomies!"
     
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  23. SameGuy

    SameGuy Well-Known Member Subscriber

    YUL
    Saw the same sub answer lol
     

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