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Very Simply 300 is insufficient

Discussion in 'General' started by Pottsda, Feb 9, 2025.

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  1. Mar 14, 2025 #81
    Keith Smith

    Keith Smith Active Member

    Phoenix AZ
    100mi range is vastly more than sufficient for a mail carrier vehicle in a suburban area. They do between 30-50 miles/day. Frankly, nearly every single local mail delivery vehicle should be electric. The long term savings on this would be phenomenal.
     
  2. Mar 15, 2025 #82
    Bruce M.

    Bruce M. Well-Known Member

    Hilo, Hawaii
    It all depends on how the car is used. For me, 300 -- roughly my car's real-world range -- is plenty. It would be more than plenty if public charging here was slightly better.
     
  3. Apr 11, 2025 #83
    Pottsda

    Pottsda New Member

    Wow. Quite a lively response. Just for clarification, I posted originally with what I experienced as the facts in my particular case. Not politicking for or against BEVs. I still have my EV6 at 30k miles and like it. Don't love it, but like it. Wife and I go South to Fla for winter vacation, and take her ICE Acura TLX. Its simply less stressful even though I have ABRP (A Better Route Planner) which I think is a very good electric car route planner. When using ABRP to plan the route it indicates the following:
    1346 miles
    23 hrs, 55 min.
    9 charges
    2 hrs, 16 min charging time.

    None of which is objectionable to me if everything works. However, my concern is availability, I've shown up at EV stations and found issues with inoperable chargers, people parked in the stalls while not charging, several connectivity issues etc. to the point that I am reluctant to go anywhere away from home where I may be required to charge. Its simpler to take the Acura. Plus there is no cost incentive to charge on the road over gasoline. Seems the EV charging infrastructure is at least as costly in a $/mi. as gas.

    In short, I find having a BEV is fine for me as long as
    i charge at home, don't wander too far off that leash.

    Oh....one other complaint. I'm so far underwater on my car loan its laughable. My 57K MSRP car with 30K miles on it is "worth" in trade about $20K and I still owe $34k on it. So....DO NOT BUY A NEW BEV....Lease it.
     
  4. Apr 11, 2025 #84
    bwilson4web

    bwilson4web Well-Known Member Subscriber

    Huntsville, AL
    A recent 1,140 mi trip in my BMW i3-REx confirms this both in block-to-block time and in gas ~$93 vs Tesla SuperCharging costs ~$80. The Tesla costs are proportionately lower due to the miles/kWh of the two. But that is not all the true costs.

    Staying at a motel with free charging saves a bunch:
    • Free charge upon arrival
    • Free charging while at destination
    • Free charging for first leg home
    • Home rate charging when back
    My impression has been about a 10% savings. Enough to cover an upgraded meal.

    Bob Wilson
     
  5. Apr 11, 2025 #85
    bwilson4web

    bwilson4web Well-Known Member Subscriber

    Huntsville, AL
    Worthy of a separate thread:
    • Buy an end of lease BEV - often low mileage and maintained for end of lease turn in. Yet new car depreciation is paid.
    I am shopping for a used HW 4.0 Model 3 or Y. They have only been out a year so most are more than I want to pay. But in two years, they will be in my price range. I’ll buy it flat out and carry only liability.

    I have seen two at and under $30 k but I expect those prices to fall further due to an excess supply. Then kick the tires at the end of the month and magic happens.

    Bob Wilson
     
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