Toyota’s green terminal gets go-ahead from Port of Long Beach

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  1. TeslaInvestors

    TeslaInvestors Active Member



    PS: 6000 miles and counting. No refueling issues.
    Only thing I'm missing are the frequent service center visits and mobile service. Oh, forgot the constant search for charging stations.
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  3. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web Well-Known Member Subscriber

    I'm not having any luck finding a copy of the plan.

    I did find this:

    The Port of Long Beach, Calif., kicked off a pilot project introducing zero-emission electric cranes and hybrid vehicles for cargo handling, part of an aggressive plan to reduce air pollution there and the nearby Port of Los Angeles by 2030.

    The state that has the strictest air pollution limits for cars is likewise leading a push to cut emissions at its seaports, a policy that has West Coast workboat operators, designers and shipbuilders pressing forward with Tier 4 diesel engines and hybrid electric propulsion in their latest projects.

    A $9.7 million grant from the California Energy Commission is funding the one-year project at Long Beach, which will bring 25 vehicles that are zero- or near zero-emissions to marine terminals to test their performance in a real-world setting. The launch event was held at Pacific Container Terminal at Long Beach’s Pier J — operated by SSA Terminals — one of three terminals participating in the project.

    I suspect this is just a port operation, like a private test track. I'm OK with this demo but not impressed because it doesn't scale well. They'll learn about hydrogen quality and fuel cell life which is important.

    Bob Wilson
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  4. interestedinEV

    interestedinEV Well-Known Member

    OK, ma be I am not understanding, but the article says that there are removing diesel and making it electric/battery electric or plug in Hybrid. I do not see any mention of fuel cells anywhere. Or am I missing something.
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  5. TeslaInvestors

    TeslaInvestors Active Member

    The article is little fuzzy. It does say this though:
    "The major renovation on the terminal would add a self-contained fuel-cell power plant and a fueling station to the Toyota Logistics Services facility at Pier B. Each would help reduce air pollution by using renewable energy and eliminating the emissions of harmful gases that could potentially drift over neighboring areas."

    Here is a background article that will help. It's basically the Toyota Tri-gen project to produce both hydrogen and electricity. The hydrigen will fill up the Mirais that come from Japan, and also power the Toyota's hydrogen truck (project Portal).

  6. 101101

    101101 Well-Known Member

    Hydrogen from fossil fuel sources needs to be banned and no public money should go to other forms.
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  8. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web Well-Known Member Subscriber

    Correct but it also predates the Toyota 'plan' by several months. I suspect the mystery Toyota FCV plan was seen as a no-cost, add-on to the existing plan.

    Bob Wilson

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