Tires (Summer/Winter/All-Season)

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  1. Carsten Haase

    Carsten Haase Well-Known Member

    My averages (mostly the same route) with different tires are:
    • OEM 16" summer Hankooks: 4.7 mi/kWh
    • 17" BFG Comp 2 all seasons: 3.8mi/kWh
    • 16" X-ICE Snow winter tires: 3.5 mi/kWh
    The all seasons are a high performance tire with an aftermarket rim so have worse efficiency than they otherwise would but the winter tire also was only used in much lower temperature so they probably come out about even
     
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  3. SameGuy

    SameGuy Well-Known Member Subscriber

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    A little espresso went up my nose, thanks for the morning chortle!
     
  4. Puppethead

    Puppethead Well-Known Member

    My "bone-chilling" experiment that @insightman referenced showed very little performance loss on my 16" Nokian Hakkapeliitta R3 winter tires, the heater is the cause of most of the range loss. I don't know how other winter tires fare, nor all-seasons. I would think if they're designed for EVs (like the Nokians) they shouldn't cause too much loss of range.

    (One note, the SE battery is very hardy in winter conditions. You're more likely to see a loss of e-power than a loss of actual range due to extreme cold.)
     
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  5. teslarati97

    teslarati97 Well-Known Member

    I'll track it next time when it gets below -35F. It's probably in the 2.1 mi/kWh range compared to 4.84mi/kWh at -3F. It's a little more difficult with extra snow/ice covering the roads compared to dry pavement.
     
  6. I have a silly question for you guys (might respond slow because I'm at work..)

    When I ordered my Mini SE, I bought the floating caps option for kicks and giggles and I like them but the ride is a bit firm on the 17" wheels and those summer tires will not do well in the Utah winter..

    What's nice is the factory put four stock mini center caps in my glovebox for free (Thank you Mini/BMW) so my thinking is to use https://www.originalwheels.com/ to buy some 16" victory spoke wheels and buy some Continental winter tires and some TPMS sensors and I'd be good to go.. (I have been lurking ebay..)

    Question is.. when I was going to buy a friend of mine swore up and down I should get run-flat version of those tires... I worked years ago at a car dealership and I remember lifting those run flats...H-E-A-V-Y... and the sidewall is stiff...yes the car is heavy but..the tires I found are XL rated... I know this is a preference question but do any of you enjoy run flats ride wise? Prefer non-run flat ride quality? I think 16" normal winter tires would ride better (yes run-flats have their pro's as far as limping home..course they're more expensive...) Just curious what you guys think? Thanks!
     
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  8. Puppethead

    Puppethead Well-Known Member

    I have run flats on my 2014 S Clubman (all-season for spring/summer/fall, snow for winter). I'm pretty happy with the run flats, but the snow run flats are really noisy and I won't go with the same brand for my next set of winter tires.

    For my SE I do not use run flats, largely because run flats are noisy tires and it'd be really noticeable in the quiet SE. The SE does come with the tire repair kit, so if you get a flat you can inject the goo. I think it comes down to what your tolerance for risking a flat is. I do think run flats have gotten quite a bit better over the last few years.
     
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  9. Thanks for the response! Yeah after doing mass research on boards and youtube it sounds like.. run-flats can be pretty annoying noise wise and ride wise... I'll brainstorm and think about it.. but thank you for sharing your experience :)
     
  10. Rexsio

    Rexsio Well-Known Member

     
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  11. Rexsio

    Rexsio Well-Known Member

    I lower a price for my Hankooks to $250 for 4 to be competitive with Walmart $700 for 4
     
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  13. Rexsio

    Rexsio Well-Known Member

    Bc I’m driving my EVs basically alone I Carry full size spare tire in I 3 for six years and never used once Ma st Be a Murphy low but I carry plugs compressor and jack I know how to fix a crab in 5 minutes which i3 happened 3 times in 6 years SE carry in back sits down full size spare with beautiful rim last one on Tire Rack for $80 and cheep tire from Walmart $50 bc I don’t want to be dependent of any road service I do much faster before service show up in 2 HR.And for a joke I checked tire pressure and I still carry air from Oxford within 1 lbs difference on all tires up to specifications.
     
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  14. Rexsio

    Rexsio Well-Known Member

    An electric car as SE don’t belong to weather minus 38 F or you keep a car in garage to go a mile to pic up a beer They useless in cold climates and have a look how many are sold in California 90 % or on east coast with mild winter few .Driving in NY in 8 months I see nothing no SE and I 3 in6 years nothing here on East Coast.
     
  15. Puppethead

    Puppethead Well-Known Member

    My experience is that the SE performs remarkably well at very cold temperatures. I drive it all winter long (even below -30 ºF) and normally get at least 90 miles range in those conditions.

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  16. GetOffYourGas

    GetOffYourGas Well-Known Member

    Upstate of you, I occasionally see those temperature in NYS. The SE is still very functional. As others have noted, it’s mostly about loss of propulsion power. But you don’t want a lot of power at the wheels in those temps - slow and steady is the name of the game and the SE (really any EV) excels at precise application of torque to pavement (or snow and ice)


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  17. -Amanda

    -Amanda Active Member

    Did you have TPMS sensors installed? I’m planning to go with R5’s as well so thanks for sharing the photo and first impressions.
     
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  18. SameGuy

    SameGuy Well-Known Member Subscriber

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    Yup, $60 each installed and coded to my make/model/year. That works out cheaper than if I bought similar sensors online and a coding device, and I didn’t have to do the work.
     
  19. MichaelC

    MichaelC Well-Known Member

    Another great video from Tyre Reviews, focused on tires for snow & ice:


    Spoiler alert: All 3 of the most popular snow tires we have discussed for the SE (Continental ContiVikingContact 7, Michelin X-Ice Snow, and Nokian Hakkapeliitta R5) were rated "the best".
     
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  20. Teddydogno1

    Teddydogno1 Active Member

    Thanks for posting that. I intentionally live where I don't need a dedicated hard-core winter tire. My "winter" tires are a good "all season" with great wet traction and pretty good snow and ice. We only really get snow and ice a few times a year and mostly we don't need to drive in it. So the A/S are great for 4 months or so when we have consistently cold and wet temps where the stock summer tires are not appropriate.

    Rob
     
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  21. SameGuy

    SameGuy Well-Known Member Subscriber

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    Yeah, even though I found a set of MINI alloys for my “Nordic winter tires,” I’m still keeping an eye open for another set on which to mount “transitional” or “intermediate” tires, such as an all weather tire that wouldn’t be scary in full winter conditions early or late in the season, but wouldn’t wear out quickly should I have to drive on dry pavement during unseasonably warm weather spells.
     
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  22. Rexsio

    Rexsio Well-Known Member

    CD2D98FD-B67D-45B6-9BCF-E453824D73C4.jpeg View attachment 18589 consider those all weather tires
     
  23. LittleWoods

    LittleWoods Active Member

    Thanks! I love having my decisions confirmed, just ordered a set of Nokian Hakkapeliitta R5s.
     
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