Tesla still doing poorly on J D Powers survey

And yet folks love their Teslas. They were the only manufacture on the Consumer Reports list a few weeks ago to get a green rating in satisfaction.

 

I don't buy it.

 

It looks like 79% of the electric cars sold in Washington state where Teslas in 2020.

https://data.wa.gov/Demographics/Most-Common-New-Vehicles-by-Model/yu7n-qgtd

 

• $41,000 - $18,300 = $22,700 out of pocket cost
• 693 days = 02/16/21 - 03/26/19 owned
• 35,535 miles odometer
• 51.3 miles/day

There is a 'fool' in this thread ... the person who claimed "make you look like a fool."

Bob Wilson

 

JD Powers and Consumer Reports have their problems. Suggesting someone might not complain because of what they paid is poor practice. But I noticed one omission in my earlier posting:

• $41,000 - $18,300 (Prius Prime trade-in) = $22,700 out of pocket cost

Given the technical improvements, I am thinking about using the 2019 Model 3 as trade-in for a more recent version. Trading-in would give me ~20 miles more range, 250 miles, from the most recent measured 230 miles down ~4.2% from the original 240. As expected, the mileage decreased due to aging and a local cold snap.

Nothing will happen until I test Full Self Driving (FSD) to determine if I can walk away from the $6k paid. I also have lighter wheels and tires on the car and would want them swapped.

Bob Wilson

 

People are usually more likely to complain if they paid a lot, because their expectations are higher.

 

As I posted earlier, I'm not stuck with one version and I still need to test FSD.

Congratulations to your son. Too bad he doesn't post here.

The 2021 Model 3 has a heat pump and there is potentially single piece castings coming. These should further drive the cost down with improved performance. I have no problem with product improvement ... a signature of Tesla products.

Bob Wilson

 

That is OK. I follow the Tesla Owners group as their technical content is the best I’ve found.

We each have our respective rides and I prefer to post my Tesla experience. Curiously, it looks like non-Tesla owners are quick to post Tesla hostile, second and third hand reports ... and some take umbrage when a Tesla owner shares their experience. Citing dodgy sources does not an expert make. Having the product in hand replaces rumor and speculation with observation.

As for JD Powers, Consumer Reports, or even the Inside EV Friday team, bring money and I’ll consider them with a higher priority. But there is always SeekingAlpha too and they bring the same amount of money ... none at all.

Bob Wilson

 

Actually, I prefer the EPA website, www.fueleconomy.gov:

The 2021 Std Rng Plus Model 3 has:

• 4.2% greater range = (250 - 240) / 240 miles
• -6.0% lower cost to operate = (0.78 - 0.83) / 0.83 cost per 25 miles

Although the 2020 is more efficient and affordable than my 2019, the difference is not enough to cover the cost of upgrading. But as I mentioned, I want to test my $6k FSD. As for the five year warranty, there will be 1-2 years remaining in 2022-2023 which improves the trade-in value.

What surprised me:

The Time to Charge Battery:

• -10.5% faster = (9.5 - 8.5) / 9.5 hours at 240V

Of the spec changes, this is especially helpful for cross country driving. It means charging stops, especially maximum range, can save an hour. There aren't many maximum range segments in the SuperCharger network but it is nice to know they will be faster.

I fully understand that some buy a car as objet d'art but my cars work hard for a living. The non-EPA web sites don't bring money or a comparison of vehicle efficiency. You of course are welcome to pay whatever you wish. Personally, I'm cheap.

Bob Wilson

ps. These are four of the top five EVs. I omitted the "2020 Hyundai Ioniq Electric" whose performance is worse than the 2019 model. No need to embarrass the competition who are 'de-evolving' their product.

 

With EPA test experience dating from 2005, I prefer their data rich sources. For example, they publish the roll down coefficents. These generate the power curve for all speeds.

Bob Wilson

 

So I have to tradeoff:

• 2019 warranty ends 2024
• potential $7,000 tax credit in 2021-2022

Looks like 2022-2023 would be a good window to trade-up my Std Rng Plus Model 3.

Bob Wilson