What is happening is the ICE makers have an obsolete technology that is unable to compete on any front with the most important fronts starting to lead. We will soon see much higher performance (where ICE can follow) electrics that are cheaper at retail (unaided by subsidies) much cheaper and easier to operate and maintain. Its pretty much game over for ICE. But notice the ICE makers can't produce EVs that compete with real EVs from real EV companies like Tesla, Rivian, Nio or Byton because that would undercut their ICE offerings. So we really can't expect much from them. Its not like money is the barrier. How much money did Rivian need to do what its done? They have the money but they can't offer anything that would rise above the ICE floor they are chained to. When you look at the Rivian look how perfectly conceived it seems and note that 14000 n.m. number. That is completely massive. Now what has been shown is not the work truck variant so the 14K n.m. doesn't translate into the equivalent massive haul capacity most assuredly because of the brakes (you get a middling 11K lbs due to brakes etc.) but that n.m. number utterly destroys the haul capacity of any Big 3 pick up. There may be other constraints like traction but its getting into big dump truck territory and it could be 30x what a big 3 truck produces- that is 30x the tractive power- Rivian could drag 3o of these backward is a tug of war with sufficient traction. Note also the 400 mile range that goes alone with that pull power. Also seems to be a no compromise vehicle on design and styling and other performance parameters. What big 3 truck could do 0 to 60 in 3 seconds? We can overlook that bs that Dodge tuner tried to foist claiming that with a modified hellcat engine in a Ram Truck that it could beat the P100D in 0-60 or quarter mile. But you get the point. When Munro was talking the latest about the pricing margins on the Model 3 if you add up the math he was talking about he was saying Tesla could make a Model 3 for 21K. Compare that with what VW is claiming for its Bolt knock off. Fingers crossed the tariff doesn't hit the AP 3 hardware but it wouldn't hit it in China or the EU. AP3 will also hit very hard as will Tesla Network. Autonomy only makes sense on full electric- the economics and mechanics don't work out well otherwise. Google knows hence the Pacific PHEV will ditch the the bulk accessories including the ICE. For sure Google would have used Tesla's if Tesla weren't a direct competitor in the Waymo space. And do not that Waymo has launched its full autonomy product in Chandler Arizona with a handful of major US cities pending. Also note that Tesla isn't alone with Rivian and Byton and Nio. The barrier to entry isn't that great anymore and its compelled by where autonomy must go. Look at Sono Motors, you can crowd fund a start-up and that one has an awesomely disruptive concept. Further note that it is a complete pipe dream on the part of global banking dynasty backed fossil fuels that anything will stop China on this- presumably that communist country isn't beholden to a central bank. China can function on its domestic economy alone and its going to get %30 advantage on cost of goods and it has much of the US's manufacturing base. In essence Tesla, Nio, Byton, Nio and BYD can cruise on converting the market share of these legacy firms and their cash piles into lunch. And when these criminal firms go under (note court of public opinion has already convicted them and equates them with terrorism- whole fossil fuel stack is terroristic and parasitic) there will be no 2nd or 3rd or 4th bailouts, there will be no further bailouts because there are plug in replacements. And this is important to know because the fossil fuel industry and with its horrid economics is used to being bailed out every other year with some scam like austerity of some phony basis war of aggression that has genocidal consequences. Also like to point out that look at how the public reacted when the truth about VW came out about Diesel Gate. How do you think they will react when the climate denial fraud finally has the denial lifted away. Its coming- just exposure on the economics and terrible toll the fossil fuel industry has had on democracy and justice will do that. There is another angle that has come. As we know money was just an extension of tax and its been used beyond the use value of goods in the exchange value of good to the point of money for the sake of money for a long time. Marx and Aristotle both the money for the sake of money issue, and Marx saw the time value tyrannies and the lowering the wages to get the debt up for control tyranny (part of what Christ was apparently responding to with the missing Jubilee days and the whipping the money changer bankers in the temple,) but now the new means of control is software and we can't even find these tokens in tangible terms, software is even more abstract than fiat currency and the point is that more and more software runs everything not bankers and their money manipulations. Silicon Valley is circling its wagons as we see with the addition of Larry Ellison to the EV game. You may want to bet on old money bankers but don't bet (not investment advice) on stupid money fossil fuels- that was just a banker franchise to try to control with money (pure evil) but the new software kings are smarter and more able. Can you see the new A.I. golems serving bankers, I sure as hell do not see this. The enslave people with money gig is about up. Bet on the center of gravity for intelligence, the technocratic center certainly not being in banking or fossil fuels, not even if they stole some quants a while back, no now it is all software. Bit Coin was just a broken warm up, decentralized automated networks and smarter search and resultant truth matching will push out both banking and fossil fuels. These people are going down in ways that prevent them from socializing losses which is as justice requires. Look at PG&E and its new bankruptcy after Enron, this time it set to divest its natural gas garbage instead of being able to socialize its natural gas bailout losses, the scarcity is being pushed on to the criminals behind it.