Sandy Munro gets a Niro to review

Discussion in 'Kia Niro' started by R P, Aug 27, 2021.

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  1. Haha, had to chuckle when I watched this. He sure is a Tesla fanboi, and sees all cars through his Tesla rose colored glasses. His ignorance and arrogance was on full display for this review. You would have thought a reviewer would do a little homework and research beforehand. I have never looked at a Niro in person, but it was obvious even to myself that he had no knowledge or experience with this car. To say the review was shallow and uninformative is an understatement.
     
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  3. ENirogus

    ENirogus Active Member

    Hey, first thing I said after I drove mine was it has a rental car vibe.

    He was not unfair really
     
  4. Shark

    Shark Active Member

    I used to think Sandy generally knew what he was talking about, but this video was quite the embarrassment. To say he didn't do any homework beforehand is quite the understatement. If he had, I'm sure he would have realized the spelling of the famous Roman emperor's name is not "Niro". Oh boy.
     
  5. davidtm

    davidtm Active Member

    Yep, classic grumpy old man, despite his interest in new tech. I did enjoy hearing that he likes the build quality. Looking forward to his driving impression.

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  6. Shark

    Shark Active Member

    Is there going to be one? I thought he indicated at one point he was going to drive it. But then I came away with the impression he was dismissing the car due to the lack of a frunk. Did I misunderstand?
     
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  8. I don't really care if he does drive it. Doesn't sound like a very knowledgeable or credible reviewer.
     
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  9. Danhen

    Danhen Active Member

    No question he is very knowledgeable (I'm very familiar with his Tesla videos), but his priorities in this video seem strange. I've never seen a reviewer focus so much on body panel fit (especially given Kia does not have an issue with this). And why does he keep comparing the Niro with the Model 3? They are not even in the same size category. He pointed out with 4 people in the car, the M3 will carry more luggage (not exactly shocking as the M3 is a larger car) and the Niro lacks a frunk, but at the same time failed to mention the Niro is far more flexible with cargo given the hatchback. For example the other day I brought home a new grille from Home Depot. I used the Niro as there was no way the box would have fit in the Model 3. And while the frunk can be useful, it's far from crucial. Rarely gets used on our Model 3. I just rarely think to use it.
     
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  10. davidtm

    davidtm Active Member

    There are aftermarket options for a frunk.
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  11. Actually, many of the EV reviewers are not very credible, too shallow. But I do like all of Bjørn Nyland's. He has tested a lot of EVs and is very impartial.
     
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  13. blue_door

    blue_door Member

    If you watch his other first-impression videos, he always looks at panel gaps. He's acknowledged many time that Tesla has issues with fit and finish. That's just one of the things he looks at.
     
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  14. Danhen

    Danhen Active Member

    So I guess Tesla is his "baseline". Still you simply no longer see major fit and finish issues on most modern cars anymore. Even Chrysler straightened (no pun intended) their act out in this respect.

    I know Tesla has improved on this, but still, my neighbor took delivery on his Model Y and his hatch is so badly misaligned that it leaks water because the misalignment damaged the weather-stripping.

    I get why Tesla had these issues early on as they were operating on a shoe string, but now they have the $ to fix the issue. They should just hire some laid off Ford and GM production engineers to show them how it's done, sheeeesh.
     
  15. Danhen

    Danhen Active Member

    Two more follow up videos:



     
  16. snowy2020

    snowy2020 New Member

    This guy sounds like he knows nothing about cars at all.
     
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  17. " Perfect old people's car "
    " Car made for timid driver "
    " Not much here to write home about "
    " Exceptional well designed 90's vehicle "

    Also based on earlier video " Free Kia " which describes interior as typical ice interior " I would not like the Kona or Niro. Plus being FWD means not good handling compared to RWD or AWD. Not worth the $47000...

    The Mach-E or ID4 would be better choices as they were designed ground up as EV.

    Now the Hyundai Ioniq 5 and Kia EV6 both much better, both use 800V fast DC charging, modern interior not look like typical ice looking interior
     
  18. davidtm

    davidtm Active Member

    A little chronological context:
    The basic design is over 2 years old, as the Niro EV came out in 2019. IMHO, the efficiency and range (if not acceleration performance) in such a "hybrid" platform at that time was basically keeping pace with the clear class leader Tesla at the time. Sure, this design is looking a little long in the tooth now, but Hyundai/Kia established solid tech footing for the Korean EVs early on.

    Watch out for 800V platforms now!

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  19. ENirogus

    ENirogus Active Member

    I bought a Kia

    I think I actually expected a really really good 90s vehicle.

    At 2700 miles I have averaged 4.1 miles per kwh [It shows me 280-290 on a full charge]

    So it has Tesla like range and still gets the gov't kickback, and so I miss out on some tech hoo ha

    As I stated earlier, I don't think the review was unfair.
    I think one leads a pretty boring life if a Kia gets you excited.
     
  20. I watched the first one, and after that, have no interest in watching another one by this guy, no matter which car he reviews. He is totally Tesla biased, and doesn't seem to know anything about other cars, or what really matters to car buyers. I think he should just stick to Tesla cars, as he is certainly not qualified to look at anything else.
     
  21. ENirogus

    ENirogus Active Member

    He is actually a pretty smart guy, and he does know quite a bit about auto manufacturing. He does have a big screaming tesla bias, and is the kind of engineer so convinced he is correct that he makes meetings impossible.
    That first video it is pretty apparent that he did not want to be there, so whoever 'forced' him to do the review made a mistake
     
  22. What credible reviewer gives opinions without any pre-work and knowing anything about the car?? Just another pompous, narcissistic, arrogant old has-been using the internet to try and recreate himself. Reminds me of Scotty Kilmer, another clue-less big mouth who has created a following of dumb gear heads. Internet is full of self proclaimed experts.
     
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  23. Kendalf

    Kendalf Active Member

    One aspect of "well designed 90's vehicles" that I am glad the Niro retained: physical tactile controls. None of this capacitive touch "buttons" or touchscreen everything interface that many EVs are moving towards, and that also includes the new E-GMP vehicles.
     

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