ODBII

Discussion in 'Clarity' started by aapitten, Apr 10, 2018.

  1. aapitten

    aapitten Active Member

    Has anyone else tried using an ODBII scanner with their clarity PHEV? I have a Garmin Ecoroute HD paired with Garmin Mechanic and it will work for about 20 seconds and then give me an error. I've heard that some of the PHEV's use a different protocol that isn't compatible with all readers.

    I'm looking for something where I can just get some additional info on the car and pair it with an app on my phone. Something more than just a basic code reader.
     
  2. AlanSqB

    AlanSqB Active Member

    I used my generic Bluetooth scanner with OBD fusion app on my iPhone. It works. Just not a lot of useful info on the default screens and I haven’t had time to do any more tinkering.

    No issue with it cutting out though.
     
  3. Schaffer970

    Schaffer970 New Member

    I also have plugged in a generic Bluetooth scanner and connected it to Torque. Haven't spent a lot of time but one of the first things that I noticed was that throttle position for EV is separate from ICE. When the engine is running you have throttle position but when using EV there is no data. Honda apparently has a number of PID's that they use which are difficult at best to get. I plan to spend some time looking at this further. Also, there is a program (that is NOT working right now due to Google restrictions) called ODB2AA that will let you take Torque data and display it on Android Auto.
     
  4. aapitten

    aapitten Active Member

    Any more updates in this department? Is anyone seeing any 'real' data from ODBII?

    (AKA is it worth me getting a new 'dongle' to plug into my car or is there really not enough useful data to be worth it?)
     
  5. Johngalt6146

    Johngalt6146 Active Member

    Does any of the OBD data show, or could be used to compute ICE hours?
     
  6. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW Well-Known Member

    I have tried ScanTool Bluetooth that I purchased a number of years ago and also borrowed a friend BlueDriver OBDII and have been very disappointed as they give nothing new or exciting (for Hondas) compared to the scanner you can borrow at your local Autozone. Was about to give up until I looked into ScanGuage again (not to be confused with ScanTool) and it claims that it can pull a wealth of information from the hybrid portion of the car:

    Battery Coolant Temperature (°F)
    Battery Module Power (kW)
    DC-DC Converter Temperature (°F)
    Generator Motor Speed (RPM)
    HV Battery Cell Max State of Charge (%)
    HV Battery Current (Amps)
    HV Battery Fan 3 Speed (RPM)
    HV Battery Max Cell Voltage (mV)
    HV Battery Usable Capacity (%)
    Motor Inverter Current (Amps)
    Outside Air Temperature (°F)
    State of Charge (%)
    Temperature of Air In Vehicle (°F)


    Here are my concerns about spending 150 bucks on a OBDII sensor (when all others cost around 20 bucks):

    Called and confirmed:
    1-no bluetooth or wifi connection ability
    2-therefore no app
    3-no way to download the data to text or csv file (no connection to a laptop)
    4-Have to send it back in and pay $25 each time there is a firmware upgrade
    5-if you purchase off the shelf and the firmware is old then see number 4 (rep did say that if this happens to call back in and they would look at possibly
    sending you a free replacement.
    6-rep had never heard of the Clarity (imagine that), could not confirm that it would or would not work on the Clarity and would not let me talk to anyone else
    specifically about the compatibility of the car.
    7-Bottom of the page says they are looking for testers for Honda/Acura. Asked rep how do I sign up and she said after you buy the Scanguage, fill out the
    form. I said what happens if it doesn't work with my car and she said it that the engineers will work with me to try to get it working and if not I could get
    a refund within 30 days.

    So I guess point 7 is within reason, but still is a leap of faith for a product that is over a decade behind in interface, connectivity and data collection options.

    I was wondering does anyone have a ScanGuage and verified that any of these items worked on any Honda Hybrid. Here is the link:

    https://www.scangauge.com/x-gauge-commands/hondaacura-hybrids/
     
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  7. loomis2

    loomis2 Well-Known Member

    I would have stopped asking questions after #4, but probably really after #1.
     
  8. Viking79

    Viking79 Well-Known Member

    We need someone to go find all the Honda hybrid unique PIDs, maybe someone has for Accord hybrid already? If so, I would start there.

    Google: Torque Pro Honda Hybrid PIDs
    Or similar.
     
  9. Atkinson

    Atkinson Active Member

    I have a ScanGauge II with older firmware, but I still get RPM, engine coolant temp, and instantaneous MPG.
    Those are the priorities, but I could use more.
    Debating whether to invest in something else or upgrade firmware.
     
  10. insightman

    insightman Well-Known Member

    Will the manufacturer make it clear when the firmware has been updated to read Clarity-specific codes?
     
  11. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW Well-Known Member

    I am working with the XGauge engineer at ScanGauge even as we speak. He sent me a data logger that I connected to the car and let run for 30 minutes and then I sent it back. For the last week or so he has been sending me coding to test and I report back. We have a couple working and there is some very interesting things going on. Continuing to work on the others but it takes time, Honda makes it very difficult to decipher. Will post some off the observations of the PIDs we have working in the next day or two.


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  12. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW Well-Known Member

    Hold off on upgrading the firmware. The work we are doing will result in a new firmware release above the current 4.50.


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  13. KentuckyKen

    KentuckyKen Well-Known Member

    God bless you AnthonyW. First the wonderful tech articles from paying to sign up on HondaTech and now you’re getting ScanGauge to work for the Clarity.
    I confer upon you Honda Super Hero status! Your check and certificate are in the mail.
     
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  14. KentuckyKen

    KentuckyKen Well-Known Member

    AnthonyW, upon reflection, I’ve decided we all owe you something for your hard work and willingness to share.
    I have a silicone cover for the key fob I would like to send you as a thank you from all of us.
    If you would like to have it, just PM your address and I’ll send it to you.
    Sorry, no color choice.
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  15. bfd

    bfd Active Member

    You didn't like the green?

    I got the red one. I can't possibly miss it. Right??!!?
     
  16. bfd

    bfd Active Member

    I used PIDs from the Accord hybrid, some worked. Most didn't. I'm not at 4.50 though, and I was going to send mine in for a firmware upgrade. After seeing your post, I'll wait awhile longer. Thanks.
     
  17. Mark W

    Mark W Active Member

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    Any more information from Anthony or anyone on this? New to the Clarity, and am missing the information that can be obtained in my Nissan Leaf from LeafSpy app.
     
  18. Mark W

    Mark W Active Member

    Any progress with anyone getting meaningful data from an obd ii?
     
  19. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW Well-Known Member

    I will post an updated list of PID’s tomorrow. It seems that we have hit a wall and can’t get any further. Not really sure if much time is being put towards the Clarity since it is a niche car. I encourage everyone to go to the website below, scroll to the very bottom and fill out the form. Maybe that will help move things along.

    https://www.scangauge.com/support/x-gauge-commands/honda-acura/


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  20. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW Well-Known Member

    See below. There is now good way to paste the grid in the post so I made it a picture:

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