Years ago, IIRC, Consumer Reports always recommended negotiating the price of a trade-in *before* you entered into negotiations for a new car. I suppose it was to ensure the best price or to avoid mixing the two together. But a case can be made that a trade-in shouldn't even be on the table, so that they can't figure that in their negotiating tactics. So, that would suggest bringing up the trade-in at the end and rely heavily on the Kelly Blue Book value. What's your sense of that -- maybe it doesn't matter -- and what have you all done vis-à-vis buying a Clarity?