London Police try out hydrogen cars:

Discussion in 'General' started by Martin Williams, Mar 16, 2018.

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  1. Martin Williams

    Martin Williams Active Member

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  3. Feed The Trees

    Feed The Trees Active Member

    PuPu gunna be mad at the PoPo

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  4. Martin Williams

    Martin Williams Active Member

    I can't see why he should. It's horses for courses. They might be fine for commuters but I doubt battery cars would be suitable for 24/7 police duty. Even so, they might have tried them out although I've not heard about it or the results of the trial.

    I am not sure if the police have to pay congestion charges in London, but if they do, then that is why they are looking into zero emission vehicles. It would add up to three or four thousand pounds a year, per car.
  5. WadeTyhon

    WadeTyhon Well-Known Member

    There are plenty of Model S vehicles that have also been converted to police vehicles. Now there is at least one Bolt.

    Police departments use many types of vehicles. Sedans, motorcycles, SUVs just to name a few. Most of the time they're sitting around idling or driving at city speeds, not chasing after bank robbers for 200+ miles. A traffic cop will spend the majority of his day sitting in one spot using up very little range.

    And considering how infrequently one finds a hydrogen station, I would be just as concerned about a 300-mile Mirai driving outside of it's range as a Bolt EV or Model S. A "robber" is no more likely to wait for a Mirai to find a station and fill up than wait for a Model S to supercharge. Any police department would be smart to have a mix of all electric, plug-in hybrid and hybrid vehicles depending on the purpose of the vehicle.
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  6. Pushmi-Pullyu

    Pushmi-Pullyu Well-Known Member

    Why be mad? (And how does "PoPo" fit in here?)

    As I said the other day, I think we should treat Martin's ongoing campaign of fool cell fanboy posts as a joke. He claims to be a "scientist", and if that's true then he should know that what he's posting about fool cell cars is science denier nonsense. And if he doesn't... then the joke is on him!
    :p :cool:
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  8. Kendalf

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  9. Pushmi-Pullyu

    Pushmi-Pullyu Well-Known Member

    Furthermore, given the very slow response of a FCEV to pressing on the accelerator, a fool cell car should be quite literally the last type of car that any police officer would want to use to pursue a bank robber! A high-performance BEV, with its instant response to pushing the "go pedal" and the ability to out-accelerate nearly any gasmobile, would be the best option.
  10. Pushmi-Pullyu

    Pushmi-Pullyu Well-Known Member

    I would almost bet that the same thing will happen. As I recall, the same thing happened with the Tesla Model S which was loaned to the L.A. police department. After a year or so, a report said it had hardly been used at all.

    It's not the police who are making decisions to buy these alternative fuel cars, it's the politicians who run the cities. I imagine the average police officer isn't interested in spending time learning how to use a type of car which his department will regard as "experimental", especially since the aftermarket police equipment installed in the car will be designed to work with gasmobiles, and likely a specific model of gasmobile at that.

    But hey, maybe these fool cell cars will be relegated to traffic control. I'm sure they will function well enough for meter maids to putter around in them, altho no doubt whoever is in charge of refueling them will be annoyed at how hard it will be to find a hydrogen fueling station which is actually open, actually doesn't have a waiting line, and actually will dispense a full tank (instead of just half a tank) of hydrogen fuel!
  11. Martin Williams

    Martin Williams Active Member

    I was having a gentle dig at battery fans. It wasn't meant to be taken seriously. I imagine your police like ours are able to use all sorts of vehicles from Helicopters to drones via the odd horse.
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  13. Feed The Trees

    Feed The Trees Active Member

    Because you're always mad :D

    PoPo = Police, c'mon

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