Level 1 chargers interchangeable?

Discussion in 'Clarity' started by Spat, May 17, 2020.

  1. Spat

    Spat New Member

    I have an extra charger for a Mitsubishi PHEV level 1 8-12 amps switchable. Could I use this on my Clarity since charger standards are standardized so to speak?
     
  2. ClarityDoc

    ClarityDoc Active Member

    The charger is in the car; the EVSE is far less complicated, and if it has a j1772 connector, then you should be good.
     
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  3. Mowcowbell

    Mowcowbell Active Member

    As long as the plug fits, it will work at either 8 or 12 amps.
     
  4. Stock Clarity PHEV charger is 12 amp, I believe.

    I'm using the stock charger connected to 240-volts, and it charges from 0 range to full in about 5 hours. On 120-volt it takes about 12.5 hours.
     
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  5. Mowcowbell

    Mowcowbell Active Member

    +1 I mainly use the stock evse connected to a 240v cord that I've modified. I see the same charge times.
     
  6. Kerbe

    Kerbe Active Member

    So it must be charging at 16 Amps - mine, on a 30 Amp Siemens EVSE, charges in 2.5 hours.
     
  7. Mowcowbell

    Mowcowbell Active Member

    While I don't have a 240v compatible meter to verify, I believe the Honda OEM evse charges at ~11amps no matter if it is connected to 120 or 240v.
     
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  8. Kerbe

    Kerbe Active Member

    You are correct - Clarity can AC charge at a maximum of 11 A but, perhaps, there are other loads on the system and the car isn't able to access the full amperage it needs? All I know is that my EVSE is a 30A unit on a dedicated 40 A circuit and the Clarity charges from O miles of range to full in slightly less than 2.5 hours. I've never attempted to charge it on a 15 A 110 V line.
     
  9. insightman

    insightman Well-Known Member

    Page 455 of the Clarity Plug-In Hybrid Owners Manual suggests a 32-amp EVSE, but they say in the table below that suggestion the 32-amp EVSE will fully charge the battery in 2.5 hours, just like your 30-Amp EVSE can do. My 40-Amp EVSE on a 60-Amp circuit takes just 2 hours 5 minutes to charge my Clarity's battery from zip and others on this forum have observed similar times. Without putting an actual ammeter between the EVSE and the Clarity, is there any way to know how many Amps the Clarity can actually draw? The problem with smart EVSEs is you don't know if the numbers they report take into account any losses the EVSE incurs.
     
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  10. DucRider

    DucRider Well-Known Member

    I have a meter (voltage, amps, kW and kWh) connected inside my EVSE at the terminal connections for the charging cord (after the relay). My Clarity BEV draws 32A at times. It is possible the PHEV uses a different charger since the BEV also has DCFC capability (but that essentially bypasses the on board charger).
     
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  11. I have access to a 110-volt/20A NEMA 5-20 outlet. Still in the level 1 charging range but would be an upgrade from 12A to 16A EVSE.

    can the onboard charger accept more than 12 amps at 110 volts? Trying to decide if it's worth upgrading from the stock 12A EVSE.
     

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