Ioniq 5 beats Tesla M3 in safety tests

I'm not sure what the government is going to investigate. Tesla's autopilot no longer uses radar. So it's a completely different system.

 

If they didn't test is with the camera setup, then the test is outdated.

 

May 2021 was date at which Tesla dropped radar.

 

But didn't Tesla change the software in older M3s to only use cameras too ? So it would be the same system in an older car. Or am I remembering wrong ?

 

Tesla switched from HW 2.5 to 3.0 around April 2020.

Bob Wilson

 

In June, iihs tested Autopilot without radar and reinstated the Top Safety rating they had pulled earlier.

I don't know when the Korean test was done. Maybe you can find out.

 

Kinda moot for a USA buyer as our IONIQ is not numbered. The EPA specs at fueleconomy.gov are weaker than the market leader Model 3.

Bob Wilson

 

I believe the IONIQ 5 is coming next year. It's a bit confusing since they currently sell an IONIQ without the number.

Anyhow, the Korean test is only current until Tesla makes an update, providing the Tesla was tested without radar.

 

Now I do not know anything about the tests, or the Korean standards authority etc. But, generally the local manufacturer is able to influence the standards and testing criteria. Again, I am not saying that it is biased, but I would like see other points of data.

 

Source: https://www.caranddriver.com/hyundai/ioniq-5

• Available forward-collision warning and automated emergency braking
• Available lane-departure warning and lane-keeping assist
• Available adaptive cruise control

If they used the word "Standard", I would not wonder if this is an extra cost option. In contrast, the Model 3 has Autopilot as a standard. Tesla Full Self Driving (FSD) is an option but ties navigation to the driver assist and other advanced parking options. We'll see when the IONIQ 5 arrives.

Bob Wilson

 

It's pretty sad that safety features are too often only available on the top of the line model.

 

The Ioniq 5 uses radar. Are they going in the wrong direction?

https://www.hyundai.com/worldwide/en/company/newsroom/hyundai-ioniq-5-redefines-electric-mobility-lifestyle-0000016626

IONIQ 5’s Highway Driving Assist 2 (HDA 2) makes highway driving more convenient. Using front view camera, radar sensors, and navigation data, HDA 2 works to control the vehicle speed and following distance, while keeping the vehicle centered in its lane. It can also assist the driver when changing a lane.

 

I'm not buying that.

https://www.easyelectriccars.com/how-does-teslas-autopilot-actually-work/

 

This is inaccurate. Both vision and radar were (are) being used in my 2019 Model 3. I can tell the radar is still in use because of the fantom braking events. I am thinking about putting an aluminum foil radar block over the front to verify it stops the fantom braking events. Regardless, we ran a 150 mile errand yesterday using Autopilot all the way:

• Huntsville AL to Shelbyville TN
• to Lewisburg TN and I-65
• to Ardmore AL
• to Huntsville AL

The standard Autopilot worked flawlessly including kicking out of lane following when I was looking at the map and forgot to torque the steering wheel. We've been using Autopilot since March 26, 2019. There have been two incidents and both occurred when Autopilot was not enabled.

So does the IONIQ 5 come with a standard driving assistance package equivalent to Autopilot? You know, the IONIQ 5 that is not available in the USA.

Bob Wilson