Florida: Right to Charge law

Discussion in 'General' started by ChargePoint, Jun 9, 2018.

  1. ChargePoint

    ChargePoint Member

    Congrats to Florida on a new Right to Charge law that makes it easier for EV drivers to get charging at condos! In some states and provinces, laws have been passed that make it harder for HOAs to say “no” to your EV charging request. Known as “Right to Charge” laws, these laws prevent an HOA or condo board from denying a resident’s request to install a charging station in an assigned parking spot when certain conditions are met. California, Colorado, Florida, Ontario and Oregon have all adopted “Right to Charge Laws.”

    Here's more on Section 718.113(8) and details on the House Bill 841.

    We also have a downloadable ebook written for HOA board members and property managers (that you can provide as a resource) to help them learn how to add value to your property and meet owners and residents’ requests for EV charging. :)
     
    Last edited: Jun 9, 2018
  2. Pushmi-Pullyu

    Pushmi-Pullyu Well-Known Member

    How horrible that such laws are necessary!

    Some HOA restrictions appear to be extremely anti-"green". I'm aware of anti-solar-power HOA restrictions, but this is the first time I've seen any report that HOAs are trying to prevent people from installing EV charge points!

    @ChargePoint: Thank you for your activism, and I wish you and your organization much success in getting similar laws passed in other States!
    :) :) :)
     
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  3. ChargePoint

    ChargePoint Member

    Thank you! The fantastic silver lining is that more are seeing the benefit of EV's and offering what's needed to support EV driving. This train is moving full steam ahead!
     
  4. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web Active Member

    Between the L2 and destination chargers, we're seeing a lot of progress. It make shopping less of a chore to know the kWh to reach the stores is being replenished. It is the fast DC chargers that remain a challenge.

    Bob Wilson
     
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  5. Pushmi-Pullyu

    Pushmi-Pullyu Well-Known Member

    Unfortunately that's almost certainly going to continue being the case. Each new generation of EV increases the maximum average power at which the car can charge. So over several years, older DCFC charger will become increasingly obsolete, and will need to be replaced with more powerful ones. I don't see that trend plateauing until we get the average charging time down to 10 minutes or even less for 300+ miles of range.

     
  6. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web Active Member

    My heuristic is the overhead should be 10% or less of the useful work:
    • 300 mi / 70 mph = 4.29 hours
    • 0.43 hours overhead ~= 26 minutes
    • ~3.5 mi/kWh (EPA metric BMW i3-REx)
    • 300 mi / 3.5 mi/kWh ~= 86 kWh
    • 86 kWh / 0.43 hours ~= 200 kW # Charging rate
    I've not included charging losses. However, we could calculate the volts and amps:
    • 500V @400A
    • 1,000V @200A
    • 2,000V @100A
    These are back of the envelope numbers but they give us insights:
    • 4 - 500V, 22kWh modules with four, 100A charging ports
    Bob Wilson
     
    Last edited: Jun 10, 2018
  7. ChargePoint

    ChargePoint Member

    Good point! We've prepared for this with our new Express Plus options. We posted an update on them here in the forum, but you can also check out InsideEV's original coverage of our announcement here.
     

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