Elon Musk resume

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  1. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web Well-Known Member Subscriber

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  3. David Green

    David Green Well-Known Member

  4. TeslaInvestors

    TeslaInvestors Active Member

    Whoa, didn't know he passed away! I heard some news that FCA has a new CEO, but didn't follow the back story. Too sad.
    Here was a CEO who revived the third largest automaker in America from the brink of collapse, and passed away; but the world barely noticed.
    Lots of great things about him in that article.

    Bob Wilson, I have a few things in mind to make that resume more truthful. But I reckon, you won't like those edits.
  5. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web Well-Known Member Subscriber

    Apparently the resume was a 3d party effort, I found a critique that makes some sense:

    There are some people who should have a one-page resume. If you're applying for Board positions, for instance, a document like Elon Musk's one-page resume can be effective. . . .

    state your accomplishments clearly and specifically, format your resume wisely, . . . include your keywords in your Experience section, than to attempt to cram all your experience onto one page.

    Their emphasis is on having the keywords that automated systems can quickly tag the resume as having applicable experience. But even in the 1980s when I was a hiring manager, 2/3ds of the resumes with the keywords did not pass.

    The remaining 1/3d led to a telephone interview and if OK, we called ~80% of them in for a face-to-face with the team. You are never going to have 100% success with every employee but we sure avoided a bunch.

    Still, the Elon Musk resume is clever and reveals his history of exceptional performance. He is the type of guy I've always enjoyed working with.

    Bob Wilson
  6. TeslaInvestors

    TeslaInvestors Active Member

    Elon's perceived greatness is a testament of Tesla fanboys' foolishness. ;) - TeslaInvestors.

    PS: A company of 33000 people producing cars for 14 years, where the CEO has to sweat it in the body shop for 110 hours a week and spend sleepless nights right before the earnings call is a sign of extremely poor management and processes.
    (But I confess; I don't really believe that blatant lie #103245. Some do. ).
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  8. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web Well-Known Member Subscriber

    Last night it occurred to me that Wikipedia probably has excellent resume fodder for Elon Musk although it goes close to a biography:

    Elon Reeve Musk FRS (/ˈiːlɒn/; born June 28, 1971) is a business magnate, investor[7][8] and engineer.[9] He is the founder, CEO, and lead designer of SpaceX;[10] co-founder, CEO, and product architect of Tesla, Inc.; and co-founder and CEO of Neuralink. In December 2016, he was ranked 21st on the Forbes list of The World's Most Powerful People.[11] As of February 2018, he has a net worth of $20.8 billion and is listed by Forbes as the 53rd-richest person in the world.[12]

    Born in Pretoria, South Africa, Musk taught himself computer programming at the age of 12. He moved to Canada when he was 17 to attend Queen's University. He transferred to the University of Pennsylvania two years later, where he received an economics degree from the Wharton School and a degree in physics from the College of Arts and Sciences. He began a Ph.D. in applied physics and material sciences at Stanford University in 1995 but dropped out after two days to pursue an entrepreneurial career. He subsequently co-founded Zip2, a web software company, which was acquired by Compaq for $340 million in 1999. Musk then founded X.com, an online payment company. It merged with Confinity in 2000 and became PayPal, which was bought by eBay for $1.5 billion in October 2002.[17]

    In May 2002, Musk founded SpaceX, an aerospace manufacturer and space transport services company, of which he is CEO and lead designer. He co-founded Tesla, Inc., an electric vehicle and solar panel manufacturer, in 2003, and operates as its CEO and product architect. In 2006, he inspired the creation of SolarCity, a solar energy services company that is now a subsidiary of Tesla, and operates as its chairman. In 2015, Musk co-founded OpenAI, a nonprofit research company that aims to promote friendly artificial intelligence. In July 2016, he co-founded Neuralink, a neurotechnology company focused on developing brain–computer interfaces, and is its CEO. In December 2016, Musk founded The Boring Company, an infrastructure and tunnel-construction company.

    In addition to his primary business pursuits, Musk has envisioned a high-speed transportation system known as the Hyperloop, and has proposed a vertical take-off and landing supersonic jet electric aircraft with electric fan propulsion, known as the Musk electric jet.[18][19] Musk has stated that the goals of SpaceX, Tesla, and SolarCity revolve around his vision to change the world and humanity.[20] His goals include reducing global warming through sustainable energy production and consumption and reducing the "risk of human extinction" by establishing a human colony on Mars.[21]

    The biggest thing is his work is his play. Reminds me of when some jobs I would go in early, leave late, and dream about what I'd get do the next day. Elon lives that life . . . totally committed.

    Bob Wilson
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  9. ekutter

    ekutter Member

    Don't know how you can't be impressed with what Musk has accomplished. Would you rather have a CEO that just sells off the profitable parts of a company to get short term gains in the stock and his personal networth, leaving the company devastated in the long run, as so many do these days? The fact that he was able to build a car company up from the ground in this day and age, with so many forces (full industries, political parties) trying to knock him down (and root against him like you - you keep saying you don't but keep showing you do), make him a hero in my book. Sure he's not perfect, but he has accomplished more (mostly positive) than just about anyone alive today. What's wrong with a CEO getting his hands dirty on the factory floor?
  10. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web Well-Known Member Subscriber

    You've correctly pointed out that being a leader is not a 9-5 job with limits on the hours worked. Leaders show by example and his persistence to tackle any problem shows commitment to the goals.

    Bob Wilson
  11. TeslaInvestors

    TeslaInvestors Active Member

    I think you got it backwards. Do I need to list out the governments that are promoting electric cars as a clean tech and lavishing generous subsidies and other benefits? Here is an easy link.I'll also like to get 20% additional credits for my small business :) Where do I sign?

    Elon's company is there only (or mainly) because of government help and easy monetary policy. Don't forget that Elon himself credits Mercedes Benz and Toyota to keep his company alive. So when you guys come out with pithforks at them next time, think about this. If they wanted Tesla dead, it would've been long time ago.

    Really, what did I do? Did I stop Tesla from making quality cars or selling their promised $35k Model 3 cars,, or procuring new subsidies? Just pointing out the not so rosy side makes me an enemy? LOL, pretty soon Tesla cult members will declare me another saboteur. :)

    Sure, he has done great in dodging land mines and getting his company through tough times so far. But there is lot more to it than Elon alone.

    Nothing wrong, if it was believable and not used an an excuse for averting legit questions in an earnings call. That too, the excuse came after one full quarter, not right away or even a few days later. Jeff Bezos also worked in the shipping room, but in a timely manner. That's the difference.. If Elon is sweating it in the body shop, sweat it before the 11th hour. And earnings calls are not when Tesla's production pushes happen. Those are generally shutdown times.
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  13. ekutter

    ekutter Member

    Many companies and industries rely on government subsidies. Big oil. Pretty much all aerospace with government military contracts. Farming. We wouldn't have an electric car industry without Tesla. Other governments only started pushing it in a big way once Tesla started showing it was feasible. I guarantee the Bolt I'm getting wouldn't have been created without Tesla showing the way.

    And this doesn't even count the Trillion plus dollars we spent on the Iraq war all because of oil. The subsidies for electric cars are minuscule in comparison. Are you against all subsidies, all electric car subsidies, or just those that help Tesla?

    There are a lot of reason to reduce our use of oil from our health to our national security. Musk has definitely been a leader in moving us in that direction. You seem incredible cynical that his only motivation is personal. I honestly believe he looks at the bigger picture.

    Do you really think he only gets his hands dirty at the end of quarter? Do you follow him around to see what he does with his time?
  14. TeslaInvestors

    TeslaInvestors Active Member

    Agreed. Just one minor quibble. Tesla was started before Elon Musk took over. If I'm right, Elon wasn't the original founder of Tesla. The Roadster did kick GM to revive the electric, or rather, the PHEV Volt. This is also why big automakers also wanted the Tesla experiment to survive. This proves my point (not yours) that big auto industry helped Tesla, and didn't want to kill it, as you claimed. Then Elon started foul mouthing every automaker and alienated all of them, to the point that no one wants to work with Tesla.

    I'm not against subsidies. All nascent technology and fundamental research should get some helping hand from the govt. Anything that helps the poor people get through their lives, I welcome that too. Although it is little disappointing to see subsidies (tax credits) mostly used by people who don't need them, I understand it is necessary to promote new technology and its indirect benefits to the society at large.
    I am just pointing out the factors that helped and are still helping Tesla, to counter your point that everyone is against Tesla.
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  15. ekutter

    ekutter Member

    Sounds like we do agree on a lot of things. Yes, Musk joined tesla but long before they released the roadster. I also don't think I said everyone is against Tesla. But there are a lot of big organizations (private and political) that are. Big oil, and big oil interests, have certainly tried to block it. Big auto definitely has been trying to slow it down.
  16. TeslaInvestors

    TeslaInvestors Active Member

    OK, good! You will have to show solid evidence for the last part to convince the skeptics! And no, @101101 's random musings don't count as evidence. :)

    Oh, and when I think of Elon spending 110 hours in the body shop, the image that pops up in my head is one of Elon walking up and down the tent, wearing boots and hat, with a cane in his left hand and a whip in right, screaming "FASTER! FASTER!" while swinging the whip in the air! Don't know why; could be due to some of the negative articles published about the working conditions during the push to 5K cars. I'm not sure this is good for Tesla in the long run.

    Timer to take a break and get some work done.
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  17. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web Well-Known Member Subscriber

    Source: http://www.autoline.tv/daily/?p=56697#more-56697

    Uh-oh, sales of passenger cars in the U.S. market have been dropping by roughly 63,000 cars a month. But as we reported yesterday, sales dropped by 86,000 cars last month. So it’s getting worse. We are now on pace to see sales fall by 760,000 passenger cars by the end of the year, which is a staggering number. At some point in time, this has got to bottom out. But so far there’s no end in sight.

    Except for Tesla which is entering the vacuum.

    Speaking of sales, here’s a fascinating number that most people missed. WardsAuto reports that last month Tesla sold 9,517 cars in the U.S. market, up nearly 200% compared to last year. Tesla sold twice as many vehicles as Porsche. It sold more than Jaguar Land Rover, more than Volvo and nearly as much as Mitsubishi. And that means Tesla is no longer a little niche player. It’s now a full-blown member of the automotive manufacturers’ club.

    U.S. JULY 2018 SALES
    Tesla      9,517 +193%
    Porsche    4,020   +7.3%
    JLR        8,089   -7.2%
    Volvo      8,622  +28.9%
    Mitsubishi 9,950  +29.2%
    Source: WardsAuto​

    The competition is seeing the writing on the wall. Elon started at the top of the line, most expensive luxury cars with high profit margins and is moving down scale.

    Source: https://www.autoblog.com/2018/08/02/tesla-model-3-top-5-trade-ins/

    . . . Tesla revealed an interesting list: the top-five trade-ins on Tesla Model 3s.

    The list — supplied by The San Francisco Chronicle — is one where we hesitate to draw any big conclusions. In alphabetical order, the top five models traded in are the BMW 3 Series, Honda Accord, Honda Civic, Nissan Leaf and Toyota Prius. There's no specific breakdown in trim, but all five have base MSRPs lower than available Model 3s. The long-awaited $35,000 Tesla isn't available yet.

    In terms of size, features, price and market position, the 3 Series is the closest competitor. The Leaf is the only other EV, suggesting that those buyers like the technology and were ready to step up to a car with more range. The Prius comes only as a hybrid, but those owners too might be fans of fuel-saving technology. While various versions of Civic and Accord hybrids have been offered over the years. That said, these Honda trade-ins could be any version, not just the electrified models.

    Tesla is monetizing those who learned the pleasures of efficient cars. For example, the quiet and relative lack of vibration made our 2003 Prius was an instant hit. In effect, the 3-4% owners of efficient cars are upgrading to the Model 3 and Tesla is gathering the profits.

    Bob Wilson
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  18. Pushmi-Pullyu

    Pushmi-Pullyu Well-Known Member

    Short-selling Tesla Death Cultists dissing a visionary and highly successful entrepreneur like Elon Musk merely exposes their extreme jealousy.

    Why don't you list your personal accomplishments, dude? Elon probably accomplishes more in one day than you will in your entire life.

    No --> ;) at all.

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  19. Pushmi-Pullyu

    Pushmi-Pullyu Well-Known Member

    Re the resume:

    I don't think "Hyperloop" belongs under "Accomplishments". That should be under the "Vision" category, unless you think a few short test tracks with mostly half-baked (at best) prototypes occasionally running in them is an "accomplishment".

    See: "WARR Hyperloop pod hits 284 mph to win SpaceX competition"

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  20. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web Well-Known Member Subscriber

    Ok, replace it with ‘inspired a rare but virulent derangement disorder.’

    Bob Wilson
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  21. Pushmi-Pullyu

    Pushmi-Pullyu Well-Known Member

    You can say the same for GM, Chrysler, and other auto makers. Reality check: Making automobiles takes many billions of dollars in capital investment, and usually yields rather thin profits at best. We can either buy all our cars from other countries, or we can ask the government to help them out occasionally. The U.S. government helps out U.S. auto makers less than is the case in most other countries, including Germany, Japan, China, and India. I can't say that I like "corporate welfare", but we live in a global economy, and American auto makers have to compete in that economy -- not an isolationist, protectionist one where foreign auto makers can't compete.

    If Mercedes and Toyota had not seen a benefit to themselves for contracting with Tesla to build EV powertrains, then they wouldn't have done so. They didn't sign contracts with Tesla to "help out the little guy." It's not appropriate for anyone to "thank" a company for doing what it decides will be most profitable for the company.

    No, you're just one more anti-Tesla smear campaigner, copying and posting FUD from other smear campaigners, all trying to tear down the good reputation of Tesla, a company genuinely trying to make the world a better place, and also trying to tear down the reputation of its CEO. Sadly, you're doing that for no other reason than greed, possibly with a side helping of jealousy of Elon Musk.

    You certainly are doing all you can to prevent Tesla from being successful; to prevent Tesla from being profitable enough to put the base $35k Model 3 into production. To dishonestly and unfairly drive down the price of Tesla stock so you can make a profit. Some would call that "fraud"; it's a tragedy that you can get away with it.

    Fortunately, "doing all you can" is pretty minor, mean-spirited stuff from any individual Tesla Death Cultist. Sadly, working together, y'all have demonstrated some ability, however limited, to damage Tesla's good name, manipulate Tesla's stock price, and -- exactly what you're trying very hard to do here, however clownishly -- paint Elon as some sort of fringe nutjob.

    As Zachary Shahan put it in his analysis of July 23rd:

    Tesla shorts are scared, exposed, desperate: With a warning that Tesla is on the verge of showing a profit, and previous indication that Tesla needs to produce just 5,000 Model 3 per week to get into the black, Tesla short sellers and foes who have long expected Tesla to collapse can largely see that the stock price could surge soon. If that starts to happen, other short sellers could bail and just decided to take a loss on their bets. Given that TSLA has been the most shorted stock on the market recently, that could mean a historic “short squeeze.”

    It appears that some short sellers are trying to push the price down to a certain level to exit with a gain or a slight loss. Others may be holding out hope that with enough negative news and a little “luck” on the Tesla production side of things, the company could run into a financial death spiral and they could finally get their dream of Tesla collapsing. Others may have honestly not examined the numbers carefully and picked up the wrong, pessimistic narrative.

    ...There are a lot of rats circling Elon and Tesla right now who would rather convince the world of a tragic story than have to jump ship.

  22. Pushmi-Pullyu

    Pushmi-Pullyu Well-Known Member

    Yeah, there's certainly some "Elon Jealousy Derangement Syndrome" apparent in this discussion!
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  23. bowprecession

    bowprecession New Member

    What are the main Aims of the Solar energy company.? What does exactly it would look like?

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