Discussion in 'Clarity' started by Mohammed Chowdhury, Oct 27, 2018.

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  1. In Nassau, NY the average residential electricity rate is 11.74¢/kWh. In that case, how much it will cost me for each full charge.
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  3. Timothy

    Timothy Active Member

    A little over $1.60
  4. Ray B

    Ray B Active Member

    People here report that a full recharge from 'empty' EV battery (0 range miles), takes ~14.4 kWh. Using my level 1 (110V) charger at home last week it took 15.5 kWh. So for your situation it would cost between $1.65 and $1.78 for a full recharge.
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  5. petteyg359

    petteyg359 Well-Known Member

    1.44 kW is what the standard 120V charger draws (120 V @ 12 A). Clarity has a 17 kWh battery. Assuming 100% charge rate the whole time, you'd need 11.8 hours.
    7.68 kW is (240 V @ 32 A) and what they advertise as 2.5 hours. If that were 100% rate, it'd only take 2.2 hours. If it takes 10% extra time regardless of the input voltage, it should be ~13 hours on 120V.

    I know that's somewhat wrong because it doesn't account for the bottom bit of the battery not actually being used, but I know in my garage it took 14 hours from actually empty to full.
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  6. David Towle

    David Towle Well-Known Member

    I'm amazed its that reasonable in NY. Mine's about 19 cents across the Sound in Connecticut. Luckily I have solar to cover most of my use.
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  8. su_A_ve

    su_A_ve Active Member

    Be aware that many times, the delivery rate is not included and can be a few cents per kWh.
  9. Mariner91

    Mariner91 Member

    Sorry to sort of steal the thread, but how much does a full charge (from -0- charge) cost when using a public charger like ChargePoint? Any one know? Haven't used one yet, but was curious as to what to expect. Also, assume it'll be `2.5 hours to full charge?
  10. David Towle

    David Towle Well-Known Member

    I checked the Nassau number before my original reply and it appears to be a total number. Delivery etc is definitely not just "a few cents per kwh". In my case the 19 cents is composed of 8.5 cents for the electricity and 10.5 cents for all the delivery crap. That's why I went solar!
  11. It cost $2.5 for full charge @ ChargePoint

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  13. Electra

    Electra Active Member

    Depends on the owner of the property. Use the ChargePoint app to see the price. There are some free chargers. 2.5 hours is a good estimate.
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  14. Mariner91

    Mariner91 Member

    Thanks! Just checked app and saw what you meant.
  15. John Fritzen

    John Fritzen New Member

    You can also set the charge to occur during off-peak hours, when the rates are a little lower.
    For instance, I set mine to charge at 1am.
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  16. Yeah some are free ... But usually those set for their employee or community ...U need to show an ID card to enter those parking area... Like in my area Adelphi University provides charging free but for their students & faculty members

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  17. Candice

    Candice Active Member

    We have quite a few free chargers around my area in Buffalo, NY. Sometimes the lot charges a fee and it will show up as a free charger but you have to pay to park there and it is not reflected on the app. Check the notes from other people and they may mention hints and tips to make it easier for you.
  18. Richard_arch74

    Richard_arch74 Active Member

    David, Wow, at 19 cents/Kwh I can see why you have invested in a solar array. If not for the solar you're paying $3.23/"Ev fill up". I'm glad I have my 8.3Kw solar array (here in Consumers Energy territory, in Michigan, I am paying 14.5 cents/Kwh) so my "fill ups" bring down my payback time for my solar investment.

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  19. BigDaddy

    BigDaddy New Member

    So I just looked at my bill and saw that the provider was charging me 14.3 cents and the distribution was 5 cents. So 19.3 cents total in central PA. I called and dropped the provider for another and am at 11 cents total now. They had changed it to a variable rate and just jacked it after our contract ended and I didn't notice. 11 0r 12 cents is about the average for the country so I am OK with it.

    To make this simple, just multiply the cost per KWH x the size of the battery (plus or minus if you have a 1/2 full battery, for example). $0.11 x 17KW battery (empty which it never is) costs $1.87. I haven't used a charge point but the one at the Harrisburg airport charges 50 cents. So that's $0.50 x 17KW or $8.50, you might as well drive a truck!
  20. insightman

    insightman Well-Known Member Subscriber

    You'll never put 17 kW into your Clarity because there are buffers that prevent complete discharging or overcharging. Most posters report a full charge takes around 14.4 kW.
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  21. dnb

    dnb Active Member

    I pay 28c through PG&E, wish there was some other options, gas is just under $4/gal here as well
  22. Texas22Step

    Texas22Step Well-Known Member

    I live in the Dallas area and managed to snag a 3-year fixed rate power contract back in January 2018 at $0.078 / kWh (including delivery), 100% wind power. But electricity prices are higher now, as generation costs are higher too. The current local (best) regular gas cost is about $2.28 / gallon, down from $2.59 / gallon just a couple of weeks ago. The gasoline costs seem to oscillate pretty wildly between about $2.25 and $3.00 / gallon, but now with my Clarity I don't need much gas anyway (except to fill my wife's ICE car!)
  23. Richard_arch74

    Richard_arch74 Active Member

    dnb, have you considered a solar array? At $4.00/gal or charge you could pay for an array fast depending on your miles/year driven and your household electric use. Does PG&E (California) have net metering?

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