Here's what I've tried: 1. The email strategy, where I request quotes from multiple dealers for their best out-the-door price. (Not very productive--mostly ignored or overlooked by nearly all dealers). The single dealer who took me up made a good offer, but turned out being far, far away, because of my mistake in addressing the email to a dealer located in a town with the same name as a local one. 2. Car Bargains. Checkbook's (part of Consumers Union) service. They told me they aren't doing the Clarity yet, and don't know when they might. 3. USAA. Have received one offer, which is about $500 under MSRP. Don't know whether that includes dealer prep and document fees. I'm guessing not. 4. Truecar. Generated only emails asking for personal details. Don't know where that might have led. Haven't yet tried Costco. Suspect result will be similar to USAA. I have visited two showrooms, both owned by the same family. One visit was okay, and they just came back to me rejecting my offer (not even a counter-offer). The other was awful, with demeaning, nefarious behavior on the part of the salesman. I wouldn't go back there even if they offered the lowest price. Their price was better than the first dealer, though. -$500, plus $519 for dealer prep and documents. Kinda like MSRP without add-ons. FYI, there's a factory Honda deal now for active military, recent veterans, and retirees. Take out a loan from Honda, and they give you a $500 discount. The salesman claimed I could pay it off the next day with no financial impact. I do wonder if I'm missing something there. I may just take the $500 + $500 deal and be done with it. Any other suggestions? Thanks, Rob The skinflint/cheapskate/miser who dealers apparently love to hate. ;-) Update: It's becoming apparent that none of these methods work on this vehicle, at least in the Northwest. MSRP without add-ons looks like the best deal possible right now. Was just offered MSRP plus $150, and no other fees or options. That's on an inbound car, with the color I want. Close enough, I'm pulling the trigger. As a matter of interest, the salesman told me his invoice is $36,105, and that he has a much better profit margin on most of the other vehicles, such as the Odyssey.