I've visited a number of dealers and have also contacted a # of dealers in my area (Massachusetts). I plan on negotiating via email. I'm curious what dealer invoice might be for this make/model in this area. I realize that dealer cost may be a lot lower than dealer invoice, but I feel if I knew the invoice price, it would give me better frame of reference for negotiating. I was thinking/hoping to land a limited for around $38,000. Realistic or dreaming? I just had a dealer tell me that his invoice was $41,691 (he didn't even say if that was the out the door price).