All EV family. Comparing Mini to others (Tesla)

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  1. insightman

    insightman Well-Known Member Subscriber

    An improvment of the gross margin to negative 40.1% would suggest leasing is the way to go with Vinfast.
     
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  3. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Well-Known Member

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  4. SameGuy

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    YUL
    Yup exactly. You get a lot of car for the money. With time, perhaps they will refine the overall experience and product quality, but like with the older Korean cars, buyers seem very satisfied with it. In the case of the VF, leasing is definitely the way to go, rather than getting upside-down with financing and low resale value.
     
  5. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Well-Known Member

    I've been driving my sisters 8 month old RWD Model 3 this week as they are on vacation. What's interesting is it uses the same % to and from work as the Mini, About 10%. Same drive, same speeds. Also since I can drive both back to back you realise how freaking nice the interior is in the Mini, actually compared to pretty much all the usual suspect EVs
     
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  6. insightman

    insightman Well-Known Member Subscriber

    ...the J01 MINI Cooper SE and the J05 MINI Aceman
     
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  8. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Well-Known Member

    I have a connect at a Mini Dealer in Oxfordshire and might head over for a few days to check it out/drive
     
  9. insightman

    insightman Well-Known Member Subscriber

    If there are J01s in Oxfordshire (and other places outside of China), why hasn't anyone posted performance specs yet?
     
  10. teslarati97

    teslarati97 Well-Known Member

    What kind of performance specs are you looking for?

    minij01specs.jpg
     
  11. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Well-Known Member

    Could be embargoed press review wise
     
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  13. MrSnrub

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    Vinfast VF8
    The Vinfast VF8 Is Better Than You Expect! In-Depth Review
     
  14. insightman

    insightman Well-Known Member Subscriber

    I've been impatiently been waiting for an independently tested 0-60 mph time for the J01 SE. The F56 SE is quicker than MINI's conservative official 6.9-second time.
     
  15. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Well-Known Member

    I wonder how they calculated it with rollout or not. Id like with a bit of rollout. Based on my Gbox measurements 6.5s is consistent. You get about 6 good runs before it starts to derate
     
  16. insightman

    insightman Well-Known Member Subscriber

    I'm certain that's the case, but some YouTuber (like you) might slip a few pounds into the pocket of an enthusiast mechanic (like...) and spend a minute or so correcting MINI's don't-sue-us-unless-it's-even-slower-than-this number.
     
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  17. CuriousGeorge

    CuriousGeorge Well-Known Member

    Most other tests I have seen have put it in the low 6 range. Different methodologies (beyond rollout), perhaps?
     
  18. SameGuy

    SameGuy Well-Known Member Subscriber

    YUL
    I was kind of hoping the E would be in the low 6es And the SE into the 5s. Maybe at some point later on, JCW won't just be a "look" and will actually be a performance upgrade.
     
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  19. teslarati97

    teslarati97 Well-Known Member

    It's getting near the limit with FWD and a single gear direct drive transmission. I believe the BMW iX1 xDrive30 is in the 5.3 second range, that's probably where the U25 Countryman SE ALL4 will be at.
     
  20. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Well-Known Member

    Even that is wildly quick for a daily driver.
    Id love to see a dual motor JCW GP
     
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  21. SameGuy

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    YUL
    It still amazes me that as recently as the late 80s, most European supercars couldn't get out of their own way – the 328 GTB got to 60 in 6.1! – and the most vaunted hot hatches didn't break 9 seconds (GTI MkII), and today mundane family-haulers are in the low-4s (and even down into the mid-3s!).
     
  22. SameGuy

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    YUL
    My sister had been smitten with the EX30 since seeing it at the Old Port last summer, but that has gradually worn off as the launch kept getting pushed back and the base price kept creeping north. She wanted the yellow dual-motor, which at under $60k (Cdn) will supposedly hit 60 in 3.4 seconds.
     
  23. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Well-Known Member

    Fiat 500e are being unloaded in Halifax as I type this
     
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