2023 BMW Group Annual Conference - J01 in camo

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  1. teslarati97

    teslarati97 Well-Known Member

    You can see the J01 in camo from 26:47 to 27:18. WLTP in the fine print is probably the current F56 SE ratings.

     
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  3. Puppethead

    Puppethead Well-Known Member

    The final form of the J01 is promising looking, much better than those supposed spy shots from China.

    But BMW is wasting effort on hydrogen? Sheesh. As I was telling someone yesterday, BEV has the momentum so even if hydrogen was better it's going to be a VHS vs. BetaMax situation: it's not about better it's about adoption.
     
  4. CuriousGeorge

    CuriousGeorge Well-Known Member

    That camo is much more interesting than the yellow and black!
     
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  5. teslarati97

    teslarati97 Well-Known Member

    There's a place for hydrogen fuel cell, but it's for really large vehicles like semis, trains, buses, or planes.

    Everything really is contingent on the efficiency of water electrolysis and ammonia conversion efficiencies. There's approximately 39.4kWh in 1kg of hydrogen, but it would take 85-218kWh of electricity equivalent (round-trip efficiency is like 18%-46%) overall.
     
  6. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Well-Known Member

    Hydrogen has potential in trucks and heavy equipment. At this point bmw has been developing it for 30 years and some manufactures still are. I guess they don’t want to fall behind.
     
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  8. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Well-Known Member

    Aircraft will slowly move to E fuel. There isn’t anything on the horizon for hydrogen from the usual suspects and it will be 10 years min before a small 10-15 seater Electric plane is possibly certified.
     
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  9. insightman

    insightman Well-Known Member Subscriber

    How much extra will I have to pay to add a scoop to that little hood?

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  10. SameGuy

    SameGuy Well-Known Member Subscriber

    YUL
    What kind of scoop?:p
     
  11. SameGuy

    SameGuy Well-Known Member Subscriber

    YUL
    Weird that the SE in the row behind the “camouflaged” i5 is a 2021, pre-LCI model. I guess they wanted a MINI that looks more “electric” (or as he says, “Behvf”) than the current version.
     
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  13. SameGuy

    SameGuy Well-Known Member Subscriber

    YUL
    Also don’t like that the graphs on the big screen behind him mimic the boomerang dash displays of the current, uglysnout Bimmeren.
     
  14. SameGuy

    SameGuy Well-Known Member Subscriber

    YUL
    I can’t tell if the Dee concept is intended to be a nod to the 70s BMW 02 or CS, or to '60s American pony cars (F-body Firebirds and A-body Barracudas, especially)…
     
  15. teslarati97

    teslarati97 Well-Known Member

    Mostly due to the nature of the E ink panels. They don't bend very well so the surfaces were made flat to compensate.
     

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