Your brain made you buy a Kona, but did your heart want a Model 3?

electriceddy said:
I find the light interior brightens it up inside with the dark tint on the windows.
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I agree it lightens up the inside and makes it look "bigger", but the light interior shows a lot of smudges and just touching it leaves a mark. So I'm sticking with my dark interior preference.
Just got back from test driving it. Definitely surprising how much "pep" it has. Tight in the backseat, but I knew that as a 6'2" individual. A bit noisy on the highway at 75 MPH, definitely more than the Leaf. That said, overall I think it makes a great contender.
I don't need to "upgrade" for another 2 months, so if they happen to get the exact model / colors I like, I'll go back and maybe pull the trigger then!
M3 is pretty much out at this point for me.
 
Robbert said:
I agree it lightens up the inside and makes it look "bigger", but the light interior shows a lot of smudges and just touching it leaves a mark. So I'm sticking with my dark interior preference.
Just got back from test driving it. Definitely surprising how much "pep" it has. Tight in the backseat, but I knew that as a 6'2" individual. A bit noisy on the highway at 75 MPH, definitely more than the Leaf. That said, overall I think it makes a great contender.
I don't need to "upgrade" for another 2 months, so if they happen to get the exact model / colors I like, I'll go back and maybe pull the trigger then!
M3 is pretty much out at this point for me.
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Yes definitely have to clean the seats etc a little more often than a dark interior
 
electriceddy said:
My question is does anybody really keep gloves in there?
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Actually, I do.Started with seeing someone else have them when using an ICE pump. I still have mine to use with public DCFC, or EVSE . OCD yes,but confirms why when I saw three people leaving a public bathroom without washing their hands,or at minimal use sanitizer gel.
 
SkookumPete said:
Yes, the black-on-black interior is gloomy in the rear. I've taken up seeking bright-coloured things to throw back there.
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The one must-have for me when I was looking for a new car was NO BLACK INTERIOR. Man, it was nearly impossible to find any. GM is obsessed with black. Everything else was black or grey. When the Kona EV with the light interior was announced I pounced. After I ordered (of course!) the Bolt with the two-tone light interior became widely available, the Volt introduced it's ceramic blue interior (very pretty) and the model three launched and included the white interior. I'm still happy with my decision. Love when the sun lights up the cabin and the blue colour glows and shows itself on the doors and dash.
 
I have a tissue box in the middle console underneath the shifter. It's hidden away, but always there for use as gloves or any other use.

Read here that somebody did that and stole the idea. [emoji106][emoji106][emoji106]

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We leased a Chevy Bolt EV last year before to replace our Kia Soul EV and its under 100 range. Over the year and a few months, my wife's arthritis made the Bolt's relatively rough ride difficult for her, so we began looking for a smoother-riding EV. This alone ruled out the M3, as it is known to have a "sporty" ride. We considered a used Model S, but the Kona EV's excellent warranty and small SUV form factor won us out. In addition the M3 just never would have have handled our musical equipment (baby boomer classic rock band) near as well as the Kona does.
 
Brian Batters said:
We leased a Chevy Bolt EV last year before to replace our Kia Soul EV and its under 100 range. Over the year and a few months, my wife's arthritis made the Bolt's relatively rough ride difficult for her, so we began looking for a smoother-riding EV. This alone ruled out the M3, as it is known to have a "sporty" ride. We considered a used Model S, but the Kona EV's excellent warranty and small SUV form factor won us out. In addition the M3 just never would have have handled our musical equipment (baby boomer classic rock band) near as well as the Kona does.
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I find the konas ride a little rough too.
 
Robbert said:
As to the original question in the forum -- I've been wavering between the M3, Leaf+ and Kona as my next car for a couple of months now. I test drove a Leaf (they didn't have the +) yesterday, but wasn't in love with it. Today I'm test driving a Kona in a package that is awful close to my desired configuration (Ultimate, gray, black leather interior). This one has the light interior instead. So I'm hoping to have enough self control that if I like it, I won't drive away with it today. :)
Currently driving an Avalon hybrid, which I love, but has 110k miles on it.
Reading through all the threads on here the last couple of days has been super helpful in understanding the Kona better!
As for the M3, I'm concerned about spare parts, higher cost (esp. w/o the tax incentive), long term company stability, etc, etc. And the lack of buttons to control things as simple as the glove box isn't great either. But darn, the self-driving capability is compelling....
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I have been following Tesla for years now, and although I want them to succeed, the self-driving argument still feels like it could be a bit of a pipe dream unfortunately.. Elon keeps saying things like "full self driving will be ready in 6 months!" year after year.. They keep raising the price on the full self-driving package too, which you may never *actually* get.. autopilot is still kinda cool, but still not foolproof.. people have died with it, when they wouldn't have if they were driving properly. There are far too many variables for it to be reliable in the near future, not to mention all the legislation that would need to pass to make it legal to have a fully autonomous vehicle driving itself everywhere. Just don't put all your eggs in self-driving and the supercharger network if you are torn between Model 3 and Kona.
 
R P said:
Comparing to the Tesla M3 again, I was surprised to see this. Seems the Standard Range model (55kWh battery) has quite a bit less power than the Long Range.
https://ev-database.uk/car/1060/Tesla-Model-3-Standard-Range
Hp is the same as our Kona at 201, but torque is only 258 lb-ft vs 290 for our Kona.
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Maybe should have compared to this
750 hp with launch control @ 774 lb-ft of torque
https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1124892_2020-porsche-taycan-preview-fast-electric-expensive
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No one pedal driving though.
 
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If I had this kinda scratch I would be getting a Roadster over the Porsche. IMHO the Taycan is insignificant even before the first sold one hits the road.
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apu said:
If I had this kinda scratch I would be getting a Roadster over the Porsche. IMHO the Taycan is insignificant even before the first sold one hits the road.
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If I was single without kids, I would have probably made a deposit on one of them new Tesla Roadsters even though I'm not sure when they will actually be available.
 
Taycan brochure is here, note interesting technical disclosures on the last pages. I think it's going to be a winner for those can afford it. It's really in a different market than Tesla, IMO.
https://files1.porsche.com/filestor...96-11e9-80c5-005056bbdc38/Taycan-Brochure.pdf
robxb said:
I have been following Tesla for years now, and although I want them to succeed, the self-driving argument still feels like it could be a bit of a pipe dream unfortunately.
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I've always been puzzled as to why Tesla make the complicated task of designing and manufacturing an EV four times more difficult by barking up the self-driving tree. I would not bother with paying for any of those options anyway on a Model 3 but don't understand why they spend valuable engineering resources on this optional technology.
 
robxb said:
The base Model 3, which could only be special-ordered as of this year, was disappointing; a compliance vehicle on Tesla's part, just to say they achieved that $35,000 price tag.
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So... you're claiming that the base Tesla Model 3 is a "California compliance" car, one built only to satisfy CARB requirements?

Or do you not know the actual definition of "compliance car"?

Either way, it's a ridiculous statement, and completely wrong.
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