Winter Tire Solution - All Weathers

Aaron Cruikshank

Aaron Cruikshank

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I've noticed a few people having concerns about getting snow tires on steel rims and how the weight of the rims/tires might impact mileage/road noise. I'd encourage you to look into my solution - All Weather tires. My local tire dealer (Kal Tire) carries Nokian and Nordman (value brand of Nokian) All Weather Tires. These are snow-rated all seasons. They have the snowflake rating on them so your insurance is still valid in the snow.

I've been driving on them on my Kia Forte for over two years now and here are my thoughts:
  1. They are a compromise tire. They wear faster than a normal all season. You're only going to get 70,000 km out of them. Not 100,000. They're also not as grippy on ice and snow as a full fledged snow tire. I have snow tires on steel rims that I swap out twice a year on the minivan but not on my work car (the Kia Forte). Don't expect them to do everything that Snow Tires will do.
  2. The Nordmans are a good deal because they're basically the last model available from the Nokians. When Nokian (great brand) brings in their new All Weather, they market their old one as the Nordmans. Still a great tire - less expensive than the Nokians. Looks like Goodyear has an All Weather option on the market now too. They didn't last time I was looking.
  3. No seasonal change over. This is the rub if you're going to keep using the factory rims for the reasons you're choosing to do it. As someone pointed out in another thread, yes - you can swap the rubber on and off the rims twice a year but every time you do so, you're risking compromising the seal on the tires. So in practice, you want to do that as rarely as possible. The All Weathers mean you can keep the same tires on all year. Just need to do an annual rotation. My tire guy does a free rotation once per year as part of the deal when you buy the tires. Not everyone is going to do that but hell - if you have a floor jack and are reasonably handy, you can do your own rotations at home.
So if you're worried about having a solution for the winter months without having to deal with steel rims and figuring out if those rims will fit around the EV components in the wheel well, I encourage you to look into All Weather tires and see if they might work for you. Here are a few links to check out:

https://www.kaltire.com/en/all-weather-tires/
https://www.fountaintire.com/tires/all-weather-tires/
 
Aaron Cruikshank said:
I've noticed a few people having concerns about getting snow tires on steel rims and how the weight of the rims/tires might impact mileage/road noise. I'd encourage you to look into my solution - All Weather tires. My local tire dealer (Kal Tire) carries Nokian and Nordman (value brand of Nokian) All Weather Tires. These are snow-rated all seasons. They have the snowflake rating on them so your insurance is still valid in the snow.

I've been driving on them on my Kia Forte for over two years now and here are my thoughts:
  1. They are a compromise tire. They wear faster than a normal all season. You're only going to get 70,000 km out of them. Not 100,000. They're also not as grippy on ice and snow as a full fledged snow tire. I have snow tires on steel rims that I swap out twice a year on the minivan but not on my work car (the Kia Forte). Don't expect them to do everything that Snow Tires will do.
  2. The Nordmans are a good deal because they're basically the last model available from the Nokians. When Nokian (great brand) brings in their new All Weather, they market their old one as the Nordmans. Still a great tire - less expensive than the Nokians. Looks like Goodyear has an All Weather option on the market now too. They didn't last time I was looking.
  3. No seasonal change over. This is the rub if you're going to keep using the factory rims for the reasons you're choosing to do it. As someone pointed out in another thread, yes - you can swap the rubber on and off the rims twice a year but every time you do so, you're risking compromising the seal on the tires. So in practice, you want to do that as rarely as possible. The All Weathers mean you can keep the same tires on all year. Just need to do an annual rotation. My tire guy does a free rotation once per year as part of the deal when you buy the tires. Not everyone is going to do that but hell - if you have a floor jack and are reasonably handy, you can do your own rotations at home.
So if you're worried about having a solution for the winter months without having to deal with steel rims and figuring out if those rims will fit around the EV components in the wheel well, I encourage you to look into All Weather tires and see if they might work for you. Here are a few links to check out:

https://www.kaltire.com/en/all-weather-tires/
https://www.fountaintire.com/tires/all-weather-tires/
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Good post. We have Michelin CrossClimates on our Kona EV and love them. (all weather) and we have had Nokian All Weathers on our other suv for a couple of years. Perfect for the Lower Mainland. Addresses the problem of not having to store tires too. I am trying to sell my Nexen tires that came with the Kona on Craigslist with no luck at all. I even took the price down $100 for all 4 and nobody wants them.
 
CJC said:
Good post. We have Michelin CrossClimates on our Kona EV and love them. (all weather) and we have had Nokian All Weathers on our other suv for a couple of years. Perfect for the Lower Mainland. Addresses the problem of not having to store tires too. I am trying to sell my Nexen tires that came with the Kona on Craigslist with no luck at all. I even took the price down $100 for all 4 and nobody wants them.
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At what price are you selling all 4
 
CJC said:
I am trying to sell my Nexen tires that came with the Kona on Craigslist with no luck at all. I even took the price down $100 for all 4 and nobody wants them.
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I think one of the challenges with selling factory tires is they are not the same quality as store-bought tires. They're usually only good to 40 or 50k and they are made of cheaper materials. The car manufacturers are always looking for ways to cut corners and this is one of them.
 
CJC said:
I replied, but not sure if it was sent as I haven't used the pm feature before. We don't go to the Island very often.
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I checked Craigslist but could't find your listing.
I am very interested and could arrange Purolator or Fedex p/u ( much cheaper than the ferry)
Can you include a link to the add so we can communicate via e-mail?
 
electriceddy said:
I checked Craigslist but could't find your listing.
I am very interested and could arrange Purolator or Fedex p/u ( much cheaper than the ferry)
Can you include a link to the add so we can communicate via e-mail?
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I pulled the ad due to no interest. My husband thought it was the wrong time of year to try to sell the tires. I will try the private message again.
 
CJC said:
I pulled the ad due to no interest. My husband thought it was the wrong time of year to try to sell the tires. I will try the private message again.
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I may have "locked" it, please try again,
My first time also trying to send PM on this forum, usually it is "send Pm" but its a little different on this one (inbox)
 
electriceddy said:
I may have "locked" it, please try again,
My first time also trying to send PM on this forum, usually it is "send Pm" but its a little different on this one (inbox)
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I did send you an email. I tried again on the pm that you sent and I tried to reply to it, but I can't figure out how to send it. Yet someone else sent me a pm a while ago, and I could answer that one as it had a send feature.
 
CJC said:
$100 dollars takes all 4.
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I would have thought the dealer would be interested at that price. Since the Kona doesn't have a spare tire, if you get a flat and resort to using the goo, the tire is ruined and needs replacement. I imagine the dealers will be replacing quite a few tires that way.
 
zoominbc said:
I would have thought the dealer would be interested at that price. Since the Kona doesn't have a spare tire, if you get a flat and resort to using the goo, the tire is ruined and needs replacement. I imagine the dealers will be replacing quite a few tires that way.
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When we were negotiating for the Michelins, we offered to sell them to them. They didn't bite at all, but we weren't in a cordial relationship at that point.
 
CJC said:
When we were negotiating for the Michelins, we offered to sell them to them. They didn't bite at all, but we weren't in a cordial relationship at that point.
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Sent you another "message" to purchase the tires, to respond just use regular e-mail
I didn't check any boxes this time so hopefully it works
 
CJC said:
Good post. We have Michelin CrossClimates on our Kona EV and love them. (all weather) and we have had Nokian All Weathers on our other suv for a couple of years. Perfect for the Lower Mainland. Addresses the problem of not having to store tires too. I am trying to sell my Nexen tires that came with the Kona on Craigslist with no luck at all. I even took the price down $100 for all 4 and nobody wants them.
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electriceddy said:
At what price are you selling all 4
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CJC if your out there please check your e-mail asap, thanks...electriceddy
 
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