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Hello, I was wondering is there any pickups or SUV's that have gone electric??

It depends on your definition of "SUV". I think Tesla markets the Model X as an "SUV", altho it's really a CUV. And absurdly, Jaguar is marketing the I-Pace as a "compact SUV" altho I think most reasonable people would call the 5-seater I-Pace either a hatchback or a liftback sedan.

Oh, also some call the Chevy Volt EV a "compact SUV", altho it's even more obviously just a hatchback.

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The Workhorse W-15 really is a full-sized PHEV pickup, altho it's made for commercial use and won't be produced in large numbers.

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From Motor Trend: "Workhorse W-15 4WD Plug-In Electric Work Truck Prototype First Drive"
 
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Is there an easy way to resize photos here? Of course I can pull one into PhotoShop and resize it that way, but I'm wondering if there is a simple way to do it with the forum's software. I posted this picture in another post, and it's really larger than what I wanted:

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So I was wondering if there was an easy way to display it at a smaller size.
 
Is there an easy way to resize photos here? Of course I can pull one into PhotoShop and resize it that way, but I'm wondering if there is a simple way to do it with the forum's software. I posted this picture in another post, and it's really larger than what I wanted:

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So I was wondering if there was an easy way to display it at a smaller size.
The only option within the Forum is to use a thumbnail instead of the entire image.

What I might do sometimes is just make it the size I want on the screen, take a screen shot, pop it into Paint then crop away everything but the now-smaller image. (that sounds like a lot, but it's probably less than a minute.)
Thumbnail example below. *wonders to himself if thumbnail size can be slightly increased.
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I would like to propose a sub forum titled something like:

"Not a Plug-in" or "Fuel Cell and Not Plug-ins" or "Missing J1772"

It would be a natural home (or Honey Pot) for wandering fuel cell advocates and could also host any other non-J1772 vehicle. For example, we haven't seen the HHO hucksters, yet, but they blow hot and cold. Alternatively, I suspect perovskite solar covered cars are coming.

I may be overthinking this, "Off Topic" could work too.

Thanks,
Bob Wilson
 
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I would like to propose a sub forum titled something like:

"Not a Plug-in" or "Fuel Cell and Not Plug-ins" or "Missing J1772"

It would be a natural home (or Honey Pot) for wandering fuel cell advocates and could also host any other non-J1772 vehicle. For example, we haven't seen the HHO hucksters, yet, but they blow hot and cold. Alternatively, I suspect perovskite solar covered cars are coming.

I may be overthinking this, "Off Topic" could work too.

Thanks,
Bob Wilson

I've added a hydrogen fuel cell vehicle sub-category in the Other section.
 
Is there a way to post pictures in the comments on the news items?

Typically, if you post a link to an image in a comment on the InsideEVs.com website, our moderator there will do something to make the image appear. It doesn't happen automatically, but it should happen. It may take up to 30 minutes or so for them to get to it.
 
Sorry for the bump:
Many times a table makes it easy to show and share data in a forum. For example, PriusChat has table tags that makes generation fairly easy. Are there table tags for this forum?
I was hoping to find more technical discussions and tables are a great way to share data. But I also realize 'table' tag software can be expensive and doesn't make sense if no one else shows an interest. Please understand I'm not advocating anything as much as sharing an insight.

Bob Wilson
 
Is there a way for you folks to add 2-3 columns
like "battery size" in kWh
and "total kWh"?
(here's a start, i'm pretty sure most values are correct)
Pure Electrics kWh
Fiat 500e 24
Honda Clarity Elect. 25.5
Hyundai Ioniq Elect. 28
Kia Soul EV 30
Smart electric 17.6
BMW i3 33
Ford Focus Electric 33.5
VW e-Golf 35.8
Nissan LEAF S 40
Chevy Bolt 60
Tesla Model S 75D 75
Tesla Model X 75D 75
Tesla Model 3 80.5
Tesla Model S 100D 100
Tesla Model X 100D 100
PHEV
Audi A3 e-tron 8.8
BMW 330e 7.6
MINI Cooper S E Countr. 7.6
BMW 530e 9.4
BMW 740e 9.2
BMW i3 33.2
BMW i8 11.6
BMW X5 9.2
Cadillac CT6 Plug-In 18.4
Chevy Volt 18.4
Chrysler Pacifica hyb. 16
Ford C-Max Energi 7.6
Ford Fusion Energi 7.6
Honda Clarity PHEV 17
Hyundai Ioniq PHEV 8.9
Hyundai Sonata PHEV 9.8
Kia Niro PHEV 8.9
Kia Optima Plug-In 9.8
Karma Revero 21.4
Mercedes C350e 6.2
Mercedes GLE550e 8.8
Mercedes S550e 8.7
Mitsubishi Outlander 12
Porsche Cayenne 10.8
Porsche Panamera 14.1
Toyota Prius Prime 8.8
Volvo S90 T8 10.4
Volvo XC60 T8 10.4
Volvo XC90 T8 9.2

This is what I come up with using your data and the above values..upload_2018-7-29_12-40-45.webp
 
Is there a way for you folks to add 2-3 columns
like "battery size" in kWh
and "total kWh"?
(here's a start, i'm pretty sure most values are correct)
Pure Electrics kWh
Fiat 500e 24
Honda Clarity Elect. 25.5
Hyundai Ioniq Elect. 28
Kia Soul EV 30
Smart electric 17.6
BMW i3 33
Ford Focus Electric 33.5
VW e-Golf 35.8
Nissan LEAF S 40
Chevy Bolt 60
Tesla Model S 75D 75
Tesla Model X 75D 75
Tesla Model 3 80.5
Tesla Model S 100D 100
Tesla Model X 100D 100
PHEV
Audi A3 e-tron 8.8
BMW 330e 7.6
MINI Cooper S E Countr. 7.6
BMW 530e 9.4
BMW 740e 9.2
BMW i3 33.2
BMW i8 11.6
BMW X5 9.2
Cadillac CT6 Plug-In 18.4
Chevy Volt 18.4
Chrysler Pacifica hyb. 16
Ford C-Max Energi 7.6
Ford Fusion Energi 7.6
Honda Clarity PHEV 17
Hyundai Ioniq PHEV 8.9
Hyundai Sonata PHEV 9.8
Kia Niro PHEV 8.9
Kia Optima Plug-In 9.8
Karma Revero 21.4
Mercedes C350e 6.2
Mercedes GLE550e 8.8
Mercedes S550e 8.7
Mitsubishi Outlander 12
Porsche Cayenne 10.8
Porsche Panamera 14.1
Toyota Prius Prime 8.8
Volvo S90 T8 10.4
Volvo XC60 T8 10.4
Volvo XC90 T8 9.2

This is what I come up with using your data and the above values..View attachment 1756
Are you referring to the Monthly Plug-In Sales Scorecard on InsideEVs?
 
Are you referring to the Monthly Plug-In Sales Scorecard on InsideEVs?
yes please.
I look at it and use
Are you referring to the Monthly Plug-In Sales Scorecard on InsideEVs?
yes, please
I look at it and use it as a kWh generator of "whom is using how many batteries/kWh or gWh
ie there is fierce competition on EV's and PHEV's, so how to tell whom i actually doing what
I find a nice vehicle like the Prius Prime plugin, which only uses 8.8kWh/vehicle or the Chevy Bolt which uses 60kWh/vehicle or most any Tesla which seem to use between 80.5kWh - 100kWh/vehicle.
How to compare?
So, right now, using your numbers of vehicles times kWh/per vehicle, it seems as a rough number, Tesla used ~60% of all kWh of batteries (excluding China) from 1/1/2017 - 6/30/2017 so I think a significant number is kWh/batteries used by mfgr
 
use it as a kWh generator of "whom is using how many batteries/kWh or gWh
Let me suggest a cut and paste of the scorecard into a spreadsheet. Then you can use a second table with the estimated kWh per vehicle to do the lookup and math you're looking at. For example, the Tesla EVs come with different battery sizes. This uses your estimate of the battery capacity for each model.

BTW, always give credit to your sources. There are too many who don't.

Good Luck!

Bob Wilson
 
yes please.
I look at it and use

yes, please
I look at it and use it as a kWh generator of "whom is using how many batteries/kWh or gWh
ie there is fierce competition on EV's and PHEV's, so how to tell whom i actually doing what
I find a nice vehicle like the Prius Prime plugin, which only uses 8.8kWh/vehicle or the Chevy Bolt which uses 60kWh/vehicle or most any Tesla which seem to use between 80.5kWh - 100kWh/vehicle.
How to compare?
So, right now, using your numbers of vehicles times kWh/per vehicle, it seems as a rough number, Tesla used ~60% of all kWh of batteries (excluding China) from 1/1/2017 - 6/30/2017 so I think a significant number is kWh/batteries used by mfgr

So, I'm told that this information is available in the Compare EVs section of the website. They want to keep the Sales Scorecard separate for a number of reasons.
 
Hey! I like the way "Ignore" functions now a lot better than when I tried using it a few months back. Back then, the forum software didn't show when someone on Ignore had posted to a thread. It didn't even show threads created by the Ignored person!

I'm glad someone "turned down" the strength of the Ignore function here. This makes it much more usable than it was before.

Who is responsible for that? Domenick? Jack?

Well, whoever it was, thank you very much!
:)
 
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Apparently I spoke too soon. I'm back to not even seeing threads created by an ignored person, let alone any indication that someone is responding to their post by quoting part or all of it.
 
Not seeing their threads is not really a problem. You might see in the six recent posts something. Regardless, the temptation to reply to that thread is not tempting ... to me.

Now sometimes they’ll respond to an interesting open thread but there is an option for a one-time peek. Curious I’ve looked but realized their hubris meant there was no need to engage.

Ron White once said, “You can’t fix stupid.” Let ‘em stand in their own mental dung.

Bob Wilson
 
For the past week or so, I've been getting email notices resulting from some settings change that I did not initiate. As best I can tell, my preferences are set to not send email. Please explain why I get alert notices when none of the boxes for email are selected:

Automatically watch threads that you create or when you reply...
and receive email notifications of replies
Automatically watch media that you add or when you comment...
and receive email notifications
Automatically watch albums that you create or when you comment...
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Automatically watch categories that you add media to...
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