2019 Clarity Plug-in Touring for sale near Raleigh NC

[Ken Murchison]

Hi there. I'm putting out advance notice that I will have a Touring model for sale in the next week or so. Silver with Black leather interior, 88K miles, new tires, 1 owner, no accidents, all service records. Most importantly, almost exclusively charged on 110v and the battery still shows 50 miles on the GOM at full charge. Never smoked in, the interior is like new. Comes with original charger. Pics coming soon...if you're interested, let me know.

 

[Geor99]

Quick question/comment: I have also charged my Clarity on the 120V AC at my home approximately 90% of the time and 10% at my former employers 240V charger. You mention this as important or a good thing. IS charging on the 120V charger better for the car/battery than other chargers? I understood that it didnt really matter if you charged using 120V or 240V. Thanks in Advance.

 

[Robert_Alabama]

Makes no meaningful or measurable difference. Matters a lot more to not keep the car sitting at 100% or 0% state of charge. Or keeping/charging it in really hot weather for a high percentage of the car's life.

 

[Geor99]

I thought that Honda put a buffer into the battery, such that a 100% State of charge on your dashboard was actually around 85% and something similar on the low end, so that it is ok to fully charge and fully deplete the car according to the visible meter on the dashboard display???

I always charge to 100%, but try to never get to 2 bars, when the car says 0 miles of ev.

 

[rodeknyt]

I thought that Honda put a buffer into the battery, such that a 100% State of charge on your dashboard was actually around 85% and something similar on the low end, so that it is ok to fully charge and fully deplete the car according to the visible meter on the dashboard display???

That is the consensus opinion.

 

[Robert_Alabama]

I thought that Honda put a buffer into the battery, such that a 100% State of charge on your dashboard was actually around 85% and something similar on the low end, so that it is ok to fully charge and fully deplete the car according to the visible meter on the dashboard display???

I always charge to 100%, but try to never get to 2 bars, when the car says 0 miles of ev.

I also always charge to 100% and will deplete the battery to zero when I need to (usually try to do it right before I get to a charger and run in HV before that if I need more miles). I also assume that 100% isn't really 100% of state of charge, I think all EVs do this to one degree or another, and that Honda takes a pretty conservative position, I can believe the 85% number.
I was really referring to just letting the car sit for a prolonged period of time at full charge. My father-in-law was 83 and bought a 2018 Clarity about 6 months after I bought mine. He drove it very little himself, then got into really bad health. The car sat for most of 7 years fully charged and being driven very infrequently. It now has 20k miles on it and the battery has less Ah than mine with 72k miles (essentially all of his 20k miles are battery and 60k of mine are battery). I know all batteries have their own degradation curve, but I chose to believe his had degraded faster due to sitting all that time at full charge. Maybe I'm wrong on that, but it seemed an easy conclusion. Obviously the car was babied a whole lot more than mine. I routinely get all the acceleration from the battery I can get without kicking on the gas engine, whereas his has been driven with a much lighter foot. His was always charged at 240V 20A. Mine is always charged at 240V 32A.

 

[Geor99]

I will tell you one thing. I made the mistake 5 or 6 times of letting it get to 1 or (and twice) 0 bars. WHen realizing, I immediately went to HV charge; but the car had practically no acceleration and screamed like a huge cloud of angry insects until I could get it back to 2 bars or so. THat is something that I make a conscous effort to never get close to again. It is very dangerous on freeway situations where a quick acceleration could save you from a wreck.

Most of the times were when my wife had borrowed the car and knew nothing about the battery and HV or HV charge mode; and I began my trip after she had blown the battery charge and I went uphill for the begining period.

Probably my fault for not drilling the battery info into her head before she was allowed to use the car

 

[Geor99]

I also always charge to 100% and will deplete the battery to zero when I need to (usually try to do it right before I get to a charger and run in HV before that if I need more miles). I also assume that 100% isn't really 100% of state of charge, I think all EVs do this to one degree or another, and that Honda takes a pretty conservative position, I can believe the 85% number.
I was really referring to just letting the car sit for a prolonged period of time at full charge. My father-in-law was 83 and bought a 2018 Clarity about 6 months after I bought mine. He drove it very little himself, then got into really bad health. The car sat for most of 7 years fully charged and being driven very infrequently. It now has 20k miles on it and the battery has less Ah than mine with 72k miles (essentially all of his 20k miles are battery and 60k of mine are battery). I know all batteries have their own degradation curve, but I chose to believe his had degraded faster due to sitting all that time at full charge. Maybe I'm wrong on that, but it seemed an easy conclusion. Obviously the car was babied a whole lot more than mine. I routinely get all the acceleration from the battery I can get without kicking on the gas engine, whereas his has been driven with a much lighter foot. His was always charged at 240V 20A. Mine is always charged at 240V 32A.

Sorry to hear about your Dad, I am just begining to go through issues with mine.

 

[NorCalPete]

I always charge to 100%, but try to never get to 2 bars, when the car says 0 miles of ev.

We drive/charge our Claritys this way too. If we get down below 2 bars (usually due to forgetting to hit HV after gassing up during a long trip), we use HV Charge to avoid the "screaming bees" phenomenon (i.e., high revs with limited acceleration).

 

[Landshark]

If we look at facts and data it becomes possible to understand that the cells are never charged to 100% capacity. That would require being charged to a voltage of 4.2V and we know for a fact that the target charging voltage is 4.09. There’s no need to assume, but it is possible to ignore the data.

As far as charging on L1 v L2, we’re looking charge rates of less than .1C and approximately .4C, respectively. For the sake of clarity a charge rate of 1C would charge a completely depleted battery to fully charged on one hour. Lithium battery manufacturers have demonstrated that a charge rate of 1C is acceptable and does not lead to premature degradation when compared to lower charge rates. Feel free to perform your own due diligence on the subject if you question the information provided above.