To everyone who charges to a 100% at EA when there's 4 cars waiting behind you.... Shame on you. Hope your battery dies early and leaves you stranded. That last 20 percent takes at least 40 min that you make everyone wait and compound the problem. Unless you have an upcoming road trip that requires 100 percent charge, there's absolutely no reason for you to charge fully.
Electrify America charging etiquette
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Hopefully, any CCS-1 car will be able to get a J3400 adapter. Tesla continues to add charging lanes, 16, 250 kW, lanes coming online in Florence AL. I won't have to use the nearby, more expensive, dual lane, 63 kW, ChargePoint.
This morning, my car was the only one at an 8 lane, 250 kW, SuperCharger station, $7.50. Later, I used a dual lane, ChargePoint charger at a Shell station, 1/2 mile (0.8 km) from the restaurant, to top off, $0.51/kWh to 80%, $2.50 . . . and take a bathroom break. As I was disconnecting, another CCS-1 car arrived.
Thanks to the topping charge, I ran two errands before plugging in at home and taking a nap. So roughly $10 for about a 250 mile trip at full highway speeds and AC when the temps were above 80 F.
Best of all, I never charged more than 80% which helps to extend the battery life of my 5 year old Tesla.
Bob Wilson.
This morning, my car was the only one at an 8 lane, 250 kW, SuperCharger station, $7.50. Later, I used a dual lane, ChargePoint charger at a Shell station, 1/2 mile (0.8 km) from the restaurant, to top off, $0.51/kWh to 80%, $2.50 . . . and take a bathroom break. As I was disconnecting, another CCS-1 car arrived.
Thanks to the topping charge, I ran two errands before plugging in at home and taking a nap. So roughly $10 for about a 250 mile trip at full highway speeds and AC when the temps were above 80 F.
Best of all, I never charged more than 80% which helps to extend the battery life of my 5 year old Tesla.
Bob Wilson.
Keith Smith
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I've never stopped an an EA unless I was on a road trip, and I like to be about 92%, that is the knuckle when the charge rate falls below 10KWH. When you don't know if the next stop you planned is even going to work at all, you have to have some leeway. If you are charging 100% of the time at EA/EVGO/CP/etc then you bought the wrong car.
Puppethead
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Seems to me if you want that last 10%-20% of charge and there are cars waiting, the considerate thing to do is disconnect and go to the end of line and top off after others get their charge.
Keith Smith
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Sure, I should wait a couple extra hours because you are privileged and deserve to jump in front of me because I'm a low-life POS who wants to make sure he gets to his destination maybe *today*. Since you are of the annointed class I should have more 'etiquette', and make way for you. Arrogant to the end.
The problem is not enough charging stations, not people 'hogging' them. I think the 'considerate' thing to do is shut up and wait your darn turn. If you don't like it, don't drive an electric car. I've been on 6 or 7 longer trips that required me to charge commercially. I've had to wait to charge more than a couple of minutes once out of probably 50ish stops. I've been from AZ to MS down I-10, all over AZ, and out to Albuquerque. The area around Quartzite is bad to the point that the extra 10 minutes to top up is not going to change much, but they have put in quite a few more DCFC's along the route there, including a few in the far west valley as you leave Phoenix.
Reality is there are X number of KW available wherever you stop. The smart thing would be to over-subscribe the power and distribute it first-come, first served as people plug in. Thus if you have 10 stations capable of 200KW, and 1MW of available power, and someone is only pulling 12KW as they top up, it just gives the other 9 stations 110KW instead of 100. Only half of the stations are in use you can get 200KW. If you only need to get to 60% to make it to a better spot, good on ya. We have to get away from the thinking above, all it does is add ammunition to the anti-EV crowd to belittle people who buy them.
The cost of DC charging stations is dropping dramatically as "they" figure this thing out. Next step is better management of the available power at the stations. Shove EV down everyone's throat then when the less affluent try to charge their vehicles accuse them of being rude and lacking etiquette if they don't do it in the "right way". Got it.