Mini S ICE Vs EV operating costs.

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Made it to Ottawa 215km from our house. 14.8kwh/100km. Did between 100-105kph. Arrived with 17% SOC. I’ll go use the electrify Canada dispenser before we leave

the last few DCFC charges I’ve not been able to get over 36kwh….
 
MrSnrub said:
Made it to Ottawa 215km from our house. 14.8kwh/100km. Did between 100-105kph. Arrived with 17% SOC. I’ll go use the electrify Canada dispenser before we leave

the last few DCFC charges I’ve not been able to get over 36kwh….
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Too easy! That's like 160 mile range on 100%.

WLTP is like 203-234km rating and you beat it!
 
MrSnrub said:
Made it to Ottawa 215km from our house. 14.8kwh/100km. Did between 100-105kph. Arrived with 17% SOC.
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Those numbers don't make sense.

14.8 kWh/100km (4.2 mi/kWh) for 215 km would be 31.8 kWh used.
That exceeds the 28.9 kWh usable battery capacity (never mind the 17% charge remaining).

To go 215 km on 83% of a 28.9 kWh battery, you'd have to achieve 11.2 kWh/100km (5.6 mi/kWh) efficiency.
I mean, maybe if you had sustained gale-force winds at your back...
 
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That’s 134 miles on 83% which is 161 miles to a charge: if you don’t exceed 60mph and at some points are doing even less (traffic, intersections, urban speed limits each end etc) it’s very do-able. I got 167 miles range out of ours in perfect weather (no heat or AC needed) in similar conditions.
The Mini display for efficiency is incorrect.
If you reverse calculate based on battery percentage used the actual efficiency is much higher.
 
teslarati97 said:
Well clearly paint correction, ceramic+graphene is working out for aerodynamics!
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I was wondering about the hood scoop and mirrors how much I was losing!

In another life I took care of some interesting race cars for a wealthy eccentric aviation engineer. He insisted before each qualifying session and race we clean the entire car and apply a fresh coat of some ungodly expensive aviation wax. I figured it was to make sure the cars were clean but really he started going on about drag at high speeds etc. Meanwhile I’m thinking “there is aero drag on the car from the wings” oh those were the days of unlimited budget
 
MrSnrub said:
I was wondering about the hood scoop and mirrors how much I was losing!

In another life I took care of some interesting race cars for a wealthy eccentric aviation engineer. He insisted before each qualifying session and race we clean the entire car and apply a fresh coat of some ungodly expensive aviation wax. I figured it was to make sure the cars were clean but really he started going on about drag at high speeds etc. Meanwhile I’m thinking “there is aero drag on the car from the wings” oh those were the days of unlimited budget
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You can't have downforce without increasing drag.

You can reduce friction drag for "free" (although I don't know if wax would do it).
 
CuriousGeorge said:
Stating "efficiency" in mi/kWh or kWh/100 km and average speed is a lot more informative than stating effective/theoretical range.
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I’m fine with what the cad displays. I’m not that nerdy enough to start having some obd2 dongle data logger setup
 
In another life when I did certain jobs for a wealthy courier-company-owner whose weekend pastime was as an owner with cars in Grand Am GT and LMP2, he explained to me that “waxing” the cars didn’t directly help with aero, but lessened the amount of insect guts and marbles which stuck to the cars, which in turn affected aero.
 
SameGuy said:
In another life when I did certain jobs for a wealthy courier-company-owner whose weekend pastime was as an owner with cars in Grand Am GT and LMP2, he explained to me that “waxing” the cars didn’t directly help with aero, but lessened the amount of insect guts and marbles which stuck to the cars, which in turn affected aero.
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Dicom

yea that’s why we were mostly doing it for tire marks and bug guts. Then again one car was 8secs faster than anything else at LCMT or Calabogie that it really didn’t matter.
 
Wait. You wrenched for Peter? Lol I only did low-voltage wiring jobs around the house and hangar in Hudson Heights (waaaay back, when JF Dumoulin was still in the 88). Small world.
 
SameGuy said:
Wait. You wrenched for Peter? Lol I only did low-voltage wiring jobs around the house and hangar in Hudson Heights (waaaay back, when JF Dumoulin was still in the 88). Small world.
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No but I know of them in the paddock. This was 10-13 years ago
 
MrSnrub said:
Gaudet? He did all my gearbox rebuilds on Pcars. His shop in Candiac was spotless. Last time I saw him was 2016 or 17 for a GT3RS box.
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Oh right I think he left PorscheHaus before that, after his *wife* got ill or passed. Sorry, my memory is full of Swiss cheese. Last time I saw him was around 2003 for an estimate.
 
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