Aceman
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Of course, the big question: Will the tariff on Chinese vehicles will push the Aceman's cost close to that of a $47K Model 3?
Puppethead
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I've waited for an EV version of the Clubman, my preferred MINI body style. But I still have an R55 because the newer F54 is too big. It seems the Aceman is my best bet to replace my ICE Clubman with an EV, so I'm really hoping it's no bigger than the current Countryman (which I think is way too big). And sadly it looks like the barn doors won't be there, it'll be a less useful hatch.
MichaelC
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Assuming the production model doesn't grow from the concept, here's what MotoringFile said in their article on its premiere:
MotoringFile said:
If that holds true, and if it comes to our shores, I like those dimensions.
Alf_W
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Even if the price were close to a $47K Model 3---I'd prefer the Aceman!
GetOffYourGas
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Same. If the price was the same, I’d prefer anything Mini to anything Tesla.
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Rexsio
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As Mini SE is here for 3 years in ACE body a Tesla is advance car to any EV on a market and why we don’t like the Tesla and if a price is similar don’t make any sense for a car which beat any EV as a milage and performance or everybody buying SE is BRITISH in USA
Elon Musk is one reason not to buy the advanced EVs he makes. Poor quality control is another.
Rexsio
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And anybody who buy Tesla is not pushing them home bc they are so bad cars they good cars and and only reason I own SE bc I don’t need a milage and without $7500 rebate nobody is going to buy SE anymore bc is luxury car with $45000 price tag . My SE $ 29 999 and rebate is a $22500 car .Lucky I did this in right time .
Alf_W
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I will second this sentiment.
I am in the SF Bay area, and there are A LOT of Teslas out here. I have read that in this area, 10% of new car sales are EV, and half of those are Teslas---so 5% of the new cars sold are Teslas. I have seen many, many Teslas, and the fit-and-finish of many of them are poor. Poor, as in I would not accept them in a $25,000 car, much less a $47,000+ car. Uneven panel seems. Misaligned door handles. Water condensation inside the tail lights. Burned out LED segments in very new cars. Problems every other car maker has solved by 2022, but still eludes Tesla.
And Elon Musk? I'll not comment beyond he is.....polarizing.
Puppethead
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Tesla has a number of fit and finish issues, more than they should. But people love the cars, and I don't begrudge anyone for that. That said, Musk's incendiary behavior lately has ensured I have zero interest in his products. Which sucks, because SpaceX is amazing.
GvilleGuy
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I think Teslas are a very important part of the EV evolution in our country. I have sat in exactly one - a Model Y - and the fit and finish were below the quality of my SE. My friend's wood panel trim on the dashboard had a big scratch in straight it from the factory. It did no bother him, so he did not bring it to Tesla's attention.
chrunck
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I just read an article on Jalopnik that said 73% of EV sales in California are Tesla. Even worse than you thought.
Previous numbers were 75% for 2021 and 79% for 2020, so it's moving in the right direction, albeit slowly.
Alf_W
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Wow.I just read an article on Jalopnik that said 73% of EV sales in California are Tesla. Even worse than you thought.
Previous numbers were 75% for 2021 and 79% for 2020, so it's moving in the right direction, albeit slowly.
There are certainly a lot of Teslas around here. I can't dispute those numbers.
Another reason I'm proud to drive a MINI.
GetOffYourGas
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To add to what others have said, I will say that personal tastes/preferences also play a role. I’ve driven Teslas. They are faster but you can feel the weight in the corners. The Mini is just more fun. That’s my opinion and I’m not the only one with that opinion. Others who own both have echoed the same sentiments.
To be clear, I love what Tesla is doing to the market. I hope they are around for a good long time and continue to be successful. They just don’t have anything right now that really appeals to me.
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Puppethead
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Autoblog just posted a bunch of spy photos of the Aceman. Not sure if these are new, but the article is.
The spy photos have MINI's faux hood scoop camouflage (and the fake halo rings), so MINI must have made quite a few of those. But it doesn't look like there's a speed bumpout on the hood, nor an actual scoop. Underneath the camouflage the hood looks pretty smooth.
I'd rather see round headlights instead of the Countryman style, but I personally think this will be a decent replacement for the Clubman and I'll quite likely buy one if they come to North America.
The spy photos have MINI's faux hood scoop camouflage (and the fake halo rings), so MINI must have made quite a few of those. But it doesn't look like there's a speed bumpout on the hood, nor an actual scoop. Underneath the camouflage the hood looks pretty smooth.
I'd rather see round headlights instead of the Countryman style, but I personally think this will be a decent replacement for the Clubman and I'll quite likely buy one if they come to North America.
Hutch
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Most of my friends have a Tesla. I'm not a fan of the interior or even the styling. But I wish I had the range they get. I think my MINI is a much better car overall.
