Buy Now or Wait for 2024

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My feel is that the new one lost that European flair or the BMW aura. I would rather wait for when Fiat sells the 500e in North America than to get the next MINI EV. To be honest. I would pick the Fiat over today’s MINI too
Dont waste your time with the Fiat, or the Mini. Dump the Mini and get the best car you can buy. The Camry. It has to be the best because more people buy it than anything else. Maybe a Civic if the Camry is too big. No, the Camry is just right for you since you want the Taycan. Dump the Mini now and put down your $ on the Taycan.
 
Meanwhile, I just placed an order on my second SE and it can’t get here soon enough.
Cool! Tell us more, @polyphonic — will your ‘23 replace your ‘21, or do you have use for two SEs? And if you’ll be keeping both, should we expect to see you constantly posting photos of whichever one you aren’t driving that day in the “Saw a MINI Cooper SE at…” thread? ;)
 
Cool! Tell us more, @polyphonic — will your ‘23 replace your ‘21, or do you have use for two SEs? And if you’ll be keeping both, should we expect to see you constantly posting photos of whichever one you aren’t driving that day in the “Saw a MINI Cooper SE at…” thread? ;)

Ha! :)

It won’t replace the ‘21 model, in fact I like the original steering wheel better due to the matte finish buttons.

Just need two cars and I couldn’t get excited about anything else.

That’s a great idea… “look where I saw two SEs in a row again…!”
 
And, of course, two tax credits are better than one.

If I was smart, I’d buy a new SE each and every year just for resale.
I’ve been flirting with the idea of doing just that! If only I could know for sure that I wouldn’t lose any features on a new ‘23 that I already have on my ‘22 (e.g., heated steering wheel).

Of course, there’d be no hurt in going ahead and placing an order, since I could always cancel it if credits in the place of desired features showed up on my build. Hmmm… o_O
 
I’ve been flirting with the idea of doing just that! If only I could know for sure that I wouldn’t lose any features on a new ‘23 that I already have on my ‘22 (e.g., heated steering wheel).

Of course, there’d be no hurt in going ahead and placing an order, since I could always cancel it if credits in the place of desired features showed up on my build. Hmmm… o_O

Not sure about the federal rebate but the Oregon one says you have to keep the car registered in your name for 2 years minimum or you have to pay the rebate back. Just something to check first!
 
I think you read a bit too much into my statements. I'm being very measured as I don't see any good coming from prolonged discussions on the topic of morals through the medium of an internet forum. We should all value things like good working wages and environmental protections for all people in our international human family.

Sorry, I know I get on my soapbox very quickly. I truly value human rights factors with manufacturing, but I also think we need to differentiate people from their governments policies. That includes US!


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We picked up our 2023 Mini Cooper SE yesterday. I was a little worried about the Island Blue and Malt Brown interior, but my wife and I really liked it as soon we saw it. I had a 100 mile drive back home. I didn’t take any chances that I’d need to charge along the way so I drove it green+ mode and kept the speed around 65. I made it with 21 miles remaining.

I like that the navigation will tell you if you can make your destination based on the mode you’re in. According to the navigation, both green and green+ would make it, but I would be short in Mid or Sport mode. I also noticed the navigation shows chargers along the way. I’ll have to experiment to see if I can just select one of those chargers as I’m driving to get directions to it.

The last car I bought was in 2012. Technology at the dealership and in the car has advanced so much since then. I read about cars all the time so I’m aware of how much things have advanced. Still, it doesn’t prepare you. I now feel like an old guy. I understand how my parents felt as we advanced with computers through the 80’s, 90’s, and 00’s. I’m one of those people who actually reads the manual so I don’t expect it will take too long to get up to speed with the technology. Just need to find the time to read and play with the car.

I mentioned the dealership technology. The finance manager’s desk is a touch screen monitor where I used a special pen to sign all the documents. No more paper. He then gave me a USB thumb drive with everything on PDF.

I usually pay cash for all my cars, but I got 2.24% through my credit union so I financed $26,000. Even in today’s market, I know I can earn more than 2.24% over the next 36 months.

Here are some pictures of our new toy.

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We picked up our 2023 Mini Cooper SE yesterday. I was a little worried about the Island Blue and Malt Brown interior, but my wife and I really liked it as soon we saw it. I had a 100 mile drive back home. I didn’t take any chances that I’d need to charge along the way so I drove it green+ mode and kept the speed around 65. I made it with 21 miles remaining.

I like that the navigation will tell you if you can make your destination based on the mode you’re in. According to the navigation, both green and green+ would make it, but I would be short in Mid or Sport mode. I also noticed the navigation shows chargers along the way. I’ll have to experiment to see if I can just select one of those chargers as I’m driving to get directions to it.

The last car I bought was in 2012. Technology at the dealership and in the car has advanced so much since then. I read about cars all the time so I’m aware of how much things have advanced. Still, it doesn’t prepare you. I now feel like an old guy. I understand how my parents felt as we advanced with computers through the 80’s, 90’s, and 00’s. I’m one of those people who actually reads the manual so I don’t expect it will take too long to get up to speed with the technology. Just need to find the time to read and play with the car.

I mentioned the dealership technology. The finance manager’s desk is a touch screen monitor where I used a special pen to sign all the documents. No more paper. He then gave me a USB thumb drive with everything on PDF.

I usually pay cash for all my cars, but I got 2.24% through my credit union so I financed $26,000. Even in today’s market, I know I can earn more than 2.24% over the next 36 months.

Here are some pictures of our new toy.

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Glad to hear of your great experience! Gotta say, I really dig that color combo!
 
Glad to hear of your great experience! Gotta say, I really dig that color combo!

So are we. I really wanted BRG and I still love that color, but my wife really like Island Blue so that’s what we went with. We had similar colored leather in our Toyota Sequoia so I knew we would like that color. I wasn’t sure if the two together would work, but it definitely does work.
 
So I’m all set on ordering a 2023. The San Diego dealer adds $1,500 in add-ones for ceramic paint coating and window tint on the back windows. I planned on doing this anyway, but I know I can get it done less expensively with better quality at my local shop. I have found another dealer that sells at MSRP with no add-ons. I probably will order from them. Interestingly, they are 103 miles from my house. I may not make it home on the first drive without stopping to charge.

Anyway, the next thing to determine is trim. I always buy my cars with leather seats and the best factory stereo. That seems to put me in the Iconic trim. I think it is possible to get the Signature+ trim with leather seats for $5,000 instead of the regular $4,000 up-charge above the Signature trim. The interior is important to me since that’s where you spend the time. We have a base RAV4 with cloth seats and basic factory stereo and it’s just a boring appliance that I avoid driving.
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What trim are others buying? Are you happy with the trim you chose?

If there is a dealer without markups, I would order now. Especially if you plan to do ceramics and tinting anyway, there is no point in paying $1,500 on top if you can do it better and cheaper in your service.

As for the equipment, I also choose from the perspective of the interior, because that is where you spend all your time. The fabric in the basic ones is really “everyday” level, nothing special. If the Iconic gives you both leather and good sound, then it is worth it.

A friend of mine took the Signature+ and does not regret it - he says the difference in audio and trim is very noticeable.

Regarding the range, if 103 miles on a single charge is questionable, it may be worth taking the first trips with a safety net or immediately looking towards home charging if you plan to drive a lot.
 
If there is a dealer without markups, I would order now. Especially if you plan to do ceramics and tinting anyway, there is no point in paying $1,500 on top if you can do it better and cheaper in your service.

As for the equipment, I also choose from the perspective of the interior, because that is where you spend all your time. The fabric in the basic ones is really “everyday” level, nothing special. If the Iconic gives you both leather and good sound, then it is worth it.

A friend of mine took the Signature+ and does not regret it - he says the difference in audio and trim is very noticeable.

Regarding the range, if 103 miles on a single charge is questionable, it may be worth taking the first trips with a safety net or immediately looking towards home charging if you plan to drive a lot.

Just FYI, you replied to a 2+ y old thread - production of the F56 SE stopped well over a year ago.
 
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