I will agree with this as the northeast got a bit of a spring heat wave.When my Kona electric wasn't acting up,I saw the AC didn't impact the consumption too much.At highway speeds of around 120kmh/74mph maybe 10km / 6 miles lost?
Watch the Ford charging curve, EVDAVE has a emustang,and did a road trip to discover at about 70%,it dives to about 11kW charging speed
When the Kona electric works,hopefully gets a software update to increase its charging curve.It has maintained about 24-40kW charging speed at around 70-85% .I'm wondering why no one is mentioning the Honda PHEVs or hybrids?Curious what others are thinking and planning. Let's assume for posts here that you'll end up accepting their offer. Obviously we all realize rejecting the offer and keeping the car is an option but I'm asking this question for those that do sell their cars back: what is your thought process on what you do next?
Here is mine: My life has changed significantly since I bought the Kona. IF this defect hadn't happened or IF they were replacing my battery in a reasonable time frame, I'd be happy to keep my 2019 Kona Electric that I love... but given that those things aren't happening and given that I'm "starting over" again from square one, I'm almost certain I'm not going to buy another EV right now. One reason I just mentioned about my life changing in the past 2 years, but another is that I keep reading more about massive improvements in battery tech on the near horizon and I think maybe I'll wait just a little while for some of those to come out. I think within 5 years we're going to see cars charging in 5-10 minutes, or at least 80% in 5-10 minutes. (I mean if it's our Konas that's all we can charge anyway, amirite?thank you, I'll be here all week folks!)
Ok seriously though, I am moving this year and expect to have longer and more frequent road trips, and as such I've decided I think I'm going to go with a PHEV for the foreseeable future with the expectation that I'll probably go back to a full EV in 5-10 years - hopefully by then we'll have solid state batteries or something similar but if not I'll likely still be ready by then to go back to full EV.
Anyway, back to the PHEV options, I kind of started with the RAV 4 Prime, and then realized the Escape now also comes in a PHEV. But then I found out Hyundai is coming out with a PHEV Tucson and Santa Fe, too. I think I've settled on the Tucson PHEV ... if I can get one, of course.
Here's my analysis of the options:
The Tucson PHEV isn't available anywhere (in the US) yet but the Hybrid is and I drove one today. It looks inside like a way more luxurious and bigger vehicle than it is. But it drives like the mid sized SUV it actually is. The seat was one of the best I've ever sat in, and it went back like a mile, a boon for anyone with long legs. I really liked everything about it except the transmission shifting seemed pretty herky jerky to me, obviously that would at least be improved by the PHEV since a lot of city driving would have no shifting.
- RAV4 Prime
- Pros: Great EV mode range of over 40 miles. Toyota typically has very high quality and reliability. Full Fed tax rebate of $7500 b/c the battery is so large (Ford and Hyundai will still get $6,000+ )
- Cons: Slow 3.3 kW charger is standard, have to pay extra for 6.6 and only available as package on top trim. Vehicle is very difficult to get. No wireless AA. RAV 4 actually mediocre reliability, esp. for Toyota. I think the car is kind of ugly.
- Ford Escape PHEV
- Pros: Very good EV Range of 38 miles. 6.6 kW (? maybe) charger standard. I had a Ford C-Max PHEV and it had excellent reliability, Sync 3 was a breeze, too.
- Cons: Car looks ok, a bit outdated though. No wireless AA. AWD not available on the PHEV version. Contrary to my personal experience with the Ford C-Max PHEV, the Escape in general has had terrible reliability.
- Hyundai Tucson PHEV
- Pros: Stunning looks inside and out. Good EV Range of 32 miles. 7.2 kW onboard charging standard on all trims. All new vehicle. AWD standard on all trims. Wireless AA avail. on smaller 8 in screen but not 10 in (hope for future software updates to fix that?). Best warranty of the 3 by far.
- Cons: All new vehicle (unknown reliability). Not as powerful as the Ford or Toyota, and less EV range than either.
Anyway, I suspect I'm in the minority here and most people are probably going to get another EV. Would be interested to hear what ones are at the top of your lists.
Our tax dollars at work subsidizing the corrupt UAW. Ugh.
I'm in New Jersey and it's a 2019
They just don't interest me and I've owned 4 Hondas in my life. They haven't kept up in my opinion. Also if I'm going to have 1 vehicle it'll be an SUV not a car like the Clarity. Too low to the ground and too hard to get in and out of as I age. If they made a PHEV CR-V I'd definitely consider it.
So far, I have driven about 1500 miles with the Model Y and I can state with 100% certainty that the Kona does get more range around town than the Model Y.
Curious BlueKonaEV, why you chose a Tesla vs. getting another $7,500 tax credit. I'm really torn. I'm loving the Model 3 but that $7,500 tax credit is so enticing. Just wanted to pick your brain why you went with Tesla. This whole choosing my next car is driving me nuts because now there are so many options in about the same price range.
1) Supercharger access.. We have family in South Texas (McAllen/Mission area) and there are no non Tesla fast charging options and I'm not going to hang out at the BMW Dealer's Level 2 charger for 9 hours until the car is charged.. Flying there is too expensive for 4 persons with luggage and then we would need a rental car there.. I would also have to drive 100 miles extra to get there as I don't want to visit the world's most expensive DC Fast charger in Corpus Cristi.. $135 for 40kw of charge.. This means with a non Tesla car I would have to drive via San Antonio which is 100 miles extra. With 80% charge limit, I couldn't even make the last leg of the trip which is over 200 miles between fast chargers..
The VW ID.4 and Volvo XC40 Recharge are both rated for towing, but yeah it looks like there are a good number of chargers along the route to Texas, and then it drops off as you go south in Texas.
Didn't know that they can tow. ID 4 is not an option after I had the chance to sit in the rear seat of one.. Not much more legroom than the Kona and no frunk. XC40 only has 208 mile range.. Not enough..If it wasn't for the Supercharger Network and of I wouldn't need towing, I would go for the Mach E. Sharp looking car!
Congrats! You won't regret it.. I hope you used a referral code.. You would get 1000 free miles if you do.. Mine is in
The range on the e-tron is way too low for me to consider it. Used e-trons can be bought for a huge discount which makes them interesting for anyone wanting to save money..
Thanks. They let me add it. You get miles too, right? Or can you only do it once?
Both get 1000 supercharger miles.. Once you placed your order, you also get a referral code that you can pass on to others and if they get delivery, both you and the referred party get 1000 miles.. I'm expecting to refer about 3 more people in coming weeks.. One of our best friends is almost ready to order
, but deals might become available soon, and Costco Auto offers a $1000 incentive on 2022 Bolts ($3000 on 2021's) through August 2.
Your #1 is also mine for driving the Washington State peninsula. There are no non-Tesla super charging stations making it virtually impossible to drive all electric beyond Port Angeles. The coast is a charging desert.
