Hyundai Ioniq 5 reveal reactions

Yeah, usually clean my rear camera with a quick lick of the finger every couple of weeks - a wiper specifically on the camera would probably be a bit overkill
 
restyler said:
Yeah, usually clean my rear camera with a quick lick of the finger every couple of weeks - a wiper specifically on the camera would probably be a bit overkill
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I don't know where you "clean camera" folks live but 10 seconds of driving in Ontario in February will totally obscure it. I know the Bolt had a squirter that washed the lens with washer fluid. Seems like a good system and inexpensive too - just an extra length of tubing and a mount.
 
Wildeyed said:
I don't know where you "clean camera" folks live but 10 seconds of driving in Ontario in February will totally obscure it. I know the Bolt had a squirter that washed the lens with washer fluid. Seems like a good system and inexpensive too - just an extra length of tubing and a mount.
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I'm in northeast USA, but but still a few hours from the Canadian border. If what I've seen the couple times I've been up to Canada are any indication, your weather is definitely significantly harsher than ours (Which is funny because Americans insist on complaining about how cold the northeast is, despite our relatively mild winters).

Still, I think it's fair to say that dedicated cleaning systems for rearview cameras are very uncommon (though as you say probably not unheard of). I wouldn't really expect one considering most people don't really seem to feel the need.

The rear wiper thing is more interesting to me because *most* crossovers and SUVs seem to have them, but apparently there are also plenty that don't (so I've read)? I'm really curious as to why some do and some don't and how much of a difference it really makes (not individual anecdotes, because we're all biased). I've always driven sedans to date, so no rear wipers for me so far.
 
I'm pretty sure it depends in the rake of the rear window. More vertical orientation creates turbulence that swirls and deposits crud on the window. A more horizontal window, as in a sedan, permits smooth flow that keeps everything moving down and off the rear of the car. I have no idea what angle represents a critical switch point. I just know that the publicity photos for the Ioniq5 featured a winter-testing shot where the rear window was completely encrusted with snow and ice. That was the shot that kicked off all of this debate.
 
Wildeyed said:
I'm pretty sure it depends in the rake of the rear window. More vertical orientation creates turbulence that swirls and deposits crud on the window. A more horizontal window, as in a sedan, permits smooth flow that keeps everything moving down and off the rear of the car. I have no idea what angle represents a critical switch point. I just know that the publicity photos for the Ioniq5 featured a winter-testing shot where the rear window was completely encrusted with snow and ice. That was the shot that kicked off all of this debate.
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I can tell you my Mazda's window is encrusted with snow and ice whenever it snows, so that doesn't seem like an unusual thing, but dust/dirt/mud that didn't fall from the sky could be an annoyance (though I'd doubt if it was a serious threat)
 
salant76 said:
The Austrian Hyundai website actual has the Ioniq 5 configurator up:
https://www.hyundai.at/ioniq-5
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Tried to configure the spec to what I think a Project 45 will have - although numerous options missing such as sound system, & it came to E60,500 = £52,000 = $71,000
Couple of weird things, so going through the model range, you've got the BASE, then PLUS, then TOP, & only on the TOP do you get "electric windows Front & Rear" included as standard - Would they really put manual "wind ups" on the lower models?
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Then on the "Individual Options" you can choose both a Panoramic sunroof & a Solar roof at the same time - how would this work??
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restyler said:
Tried to configure the spec to what I think a Project 45 will have - although numerous options missing such as sound system, & it came to E60,500 = £52,000 = $71,000
Couple of weird things, so going through the model range, you've got the BASE, then PLUS, then TOP, & only on the TOP do you get "electric windows Front & Rear" included as standard - Would they really put manual "wind ups" on the lower models?
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Then on the "Individual Options" you can choose both a Panoramic sunroof & a Solar roof at the same time - how would this work??
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Yeeeah, I played with that too, out of curiosity, and it didn't really make a lot of sense (IE: as far as we know the 12" screens are standard). Best not take it too seriously for now. Also, don't try to convert the prices like that. The pricing methodologies in europe are completely different from the US (They price in VAT, for instance, which is way higher than our sales tax, in any case). Hyundai would be positively insane to charge anywhere near that, in any case. It might be sensible to build a comparable(ish) spec on tesla's austria configurator and on the US one and compare the prices and apply the same ratio to the I5 to get a vague comparison (though that would assume the basic pricing is the same here vs there, which it probably won't be)
 
elfrocampeador said:
Yeeeah, I played with that too, out of curiosity, and it didn't really make a lot of sense ....
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Rechecked & I'd missed off the 20" wheels option (and possibly the bigger battery), so total Austrian price for a P45 Equivalent came to E66,830 (adjusted for dealer contribution of E2,400) roughly £57,300.
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It was mentioned by Hyundai at launch that the P45 was available at a "special price" so it still looks like I'll be getting my moneys worth (almost takes away the bitter taste of not qualifying for the Gov't grant anymore :mad: )
 
I've seen a couple of videos that mention the first iteration of Ioniq 5 vehicles will have OTA with limited capability (The Auto Vision). It won't be able to update firmware. I think it was the same source in another video that claimed this was rushed to production due to the release of Model Y in Korea and it accounts for some of the minor differences in specs between the EV6 and Ioniq 5 (like the 4 versus 5 minute time to charge 100 km of range). I'm interested to see what KIA announces 3/30 regarding OTA capability. Wonder if the 5s produced in 2022 will have full OTA capability. Right now, I wouldn't purchase the 5 if the claim of limited OTA capability is true.

Of course, Hyundai may update the vehicles built in 2021 to have full OTA capability but I wouldn't buy one until I knew for sure.
 
elfrocampeador said:
Yeeeah, I played with that too, out of curiosity, and it didn't really make a lot of sense (IE: as far as we know the 12" screens are standard). Best not take it too seriously for now. Also, don't try to convert the prices like that. The pricing methodologies in europe are completely different from the US (They price in VAT, for instance, which is way higher than our sales tax, in any case). Hyundai would be positively insane to charge anywhere near that, in any case. It might be sensible to build a comparable(ish) spec on tesla's austria configurator and on the US one and compare the prices and apply the same ratio to the I5 to get a vague comparison (though that would assume the basic pricing is the same here vs there, which it probably won't be)
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Agree - VAT makes comparing prices impossible. If you convert Korean Won prices to dollars, 57,000,000 comes to $50,500 for the top long range model. 52,000,000 won for base long range model. So I'm guessing USA pricing will be between European and Korean prices.
 
Tedbase1 said:
I've seen a couple of videos that mention the first iteration of Ioniq 5 vehicles will have OTA with limited capability (The Auto Vision). It won't be able to update firmware. I think it was the same source in another video that claimed this was rushed to production due to the release of Model Y in Korea and it accounts for some of the minor differences in specs between the EV6 and Ioniq 5 (like the 4 versus 5 minute time to charge 100 km of range). I'm interested to see what KIA announces 3/30 regarding OTA capability. Wonder if the 5s produced in 2022 will have full OTA capability. Right now, I wouldn't purchase the 5 if the claim of limited OTA capability is true.

Of course, Hyundai may update the vehicles built in 2021 to have full OTA capability but I wouldn't buy one until I knew for sure.
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I suggest taking all of that with a fistfull of salt. Nothing about OTA/etc has been announced officially (or leaked, as far as I know), so any videos we see (particularly ones with computer generated voices) are of uncertain trustworthiness at best. For what it's worth, I don't buy the rush job argument for a second (at least, with regards to any differences between the Ioniq 5 and EV6). The EV6 was announced only a few weeks after the I5, that's not nearly enough time to make substantial changes. The charging differences might be a deliberate decision, or perhaps Hyundai has opted for more conservative charging than Kia. We really have no way to know.

Hopefully we'll get official word on OTA capabilities before market release (or, at worst, we'll hear about it when the Project 45 units get into the wild).

I'm not terribly concerned about the charging speed - it's still reportedly better than almost anything else on the market. Still, hopefully they'll eventually update the software to enable more aggressive charging (assuming the hardware is capable of it, which I assume it is, as I assume it's nearly identical to the EV6's).
 
elfrocampeador said:
I suggest taking all of that with a fistfull of salt. Nothing about OTA/etc has been announced officially (or leaked, as far as I know), so any videos we see (particularly ones with computer generated voices) are of uncertain trustworthiness at best. For what it's worth, I don't buy the rush job argument for a second (at least, with regards to any differences between the Ioniq 5 and EV6). The EV6 was announced only a few weeks after the I5, that's not nearly enough time to make substantial changes. The charging differences might be a deliberate decision, or perhaps Hyundai has opted for more conservative charging than Kia. We really have no way to know.

Hopefully we'll get official word on OTA capabilities before market release (or, at worst, we'll hear about it when the Project 45 units get into the wild).

I'm not terribly concerned about the charging speed - it's still reportedly better than almost anything else on the market. Still, hopefully they'll eventually update the software to enable more aggressive charging (assuming the hardware is capable of it, which I assume it is, as I assume it's nearly identical to the EV6's).
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Only OTA confirmation is this:
https://insideevsforum.com/communit...iq-5-specs-and-launch-date.10173/#post-118949
Apparently starting this year
 
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I saw a couple of interesting things in one of the latest i5 vids:-
1st - being the V2G {Vehicle to Grid} alongside the Vehicle to Load on the display - I thought it only had V2L, or is it something to do with the solar panels?
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2nd - Trailer Mode - where it auto detects the weight of the trailer & adjusts parameters accordingly
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3rd - VESS Voice notifications of the charging state - maybe all EVs have this, but its new to me
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4th - Another thing new to me but apparently common on EVs - Satnav based Regen!!
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